From jack na ro.zrsss.si Mon Feb 10 09:09:24 1997 From: jack na ro.zrsss.si (Jaka Mele) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:13:28 2004 Subject: Caldera openDOS References: Message-ID: On Sun, 9 Feb 1997, Matjaz Godec wrote: > > Zanimivo bi bilo sprobati kaksen malo bolj zahteven DOS program. > > Kaksen game, npr. Dooma za DOS, ki tece v dos protected mode-u > > (vsaj mislim, da se mu tako rece), ce to laufa... > Trenutno se baje ne da igrati igrice DUKE na omenjenem Caldera Open DOSu, > vendar je bil le ta pognan samo iz diskete. > Ce je tema zanimiva tudi za to listo, prosim povejte svoje mnenje. > Pod zadnjim dosemu-jem se da spilati DUke, quake, doom2 ... Mogoce bi bilo fino sprobat... Ce bi se kdo ful ukvarjal s tem lahko tudi kaj napise pa in bomo objavili v Win.Ini... (to velja za vse - ce imate kaksne ideje, zilico za pisanje , feel free to write)... bye, Jack Jaka Mele | jaka.mele@arnes.si | Those who do not understand Unix ARNES, Jamova 39 | Tel: +386 61 125-1515 | are condemned to reinvent it, SI-1000 Ljubljana | Fax: +386 61 125-5454 | poorly. Member of Linux User Group Of Slovenia http://www.zrsss.si/~lugos/ From rek na leila.ijs.si Wed Feb 19 06:46:59 1997 From: rek na leila.ijs.si (Zlatko Rek) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:13:31 2004 Subject: LINUX TRI CD - spisek narocil References: Message-ID: <199702190547.GAA13693@ro.zrsss.si> >>Razen ce bo slo z UPS! Pri meni so za dostavo enega 50 $US vrednega >>narocila porabili 4,5 (stiri in pol) meseca!? > > Moje izkusnje so: > > UPS: 3-6 dni > DHL: 7-14 dni > F.E.: 3-6 mesecev :(( Ups, pa sem UPS po krivem obdolzil pocasnosti. DHL je rabil 4,5 meseca! Prizadetim se opravicujem. Lep pozdrav. Zlatko ______________________________________________________________________________ Dr. Zlatko Rek | Phone:+386 61 177 3746 Jozef Stefan Institute | +386 61 177 3900 National Supercomputing Centre | Fax: +386 61 219 385 Jamova 39, P.O.BOX 300 | E-mail:zlatko.rek@nsc.ijs.si SI-1001 Ljubljana, SLOVENIA | http://www2.ijs.si/~rek/ ______________________________________________________________________________ From gody na elgo.si Mon Feb 10 09:32:19 1997 From: gody na elgo.si (Matjaz Godec) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:13:38 2004 Subject: Xi in graf. kartice References: Message-ID: On Mon, 10 Feb 1997, Jaka Mele wrote: > > Eto, dve muhi na en mah. Accelerated X je komercialni X server, ki podpira > vec graficnih kartic, kot lahko sanjamo. Stvar stane okoli 100$, je pa > zlata vredna. www.x-inside.com ... mislim pa da je svoje cajte imel to > tudi Gody.. ? > bye, Jack > Accelerated X je vkljucen v CND 1.0 (stane cca 20.000,00 SIT in ima not se drug komercialen software), Metro X je vkljucen v COL Base (stane 13.650,00 oziroma 9.990,00 in ima se nekaj druge komercialne opreme). gody ___________________________________________________________________________ Matjaz Godec | "ELGO" Maribor d.o.o. | Electronics matjaz.godec@elgo.si | Ul. Josipa Priola 35 | Telecommunications tel/fax:+ 386 62 24 460 | SI 2ooo Maribor, Slovenija | CALDERA-LINUX http://www.elgo.si/ | Slovenian network "SloN" | Internet consultant From jack na ro.zrsss.si Wed Feb 19 08:07:17 1997 From: jack na ro.zrsss.si (Jaka Mele) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:13:41 2004 Subject: Tezave z PPP-jem (fwd) References: <> Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 19:24:53 +0100 From: Blaz Podrzaj To: jaka.mele@guest.arnes.si Subject: Tezave z PPP-jem Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 19:19:21 +0100 Resent-From: blayo@mailhost.net Resent-To: jack@ro.zrsss.si Yo! Ti, mam tezave. Kr naenkat mam probleme ce hocm z Linux-om na Arnes-ou PPP. Ne uporablam nobenih skript ker mi telefonska linija tko sux da nima smisla (sploh mi ne prepozna busy tona itd.) ampka grem gor najveckat tko da pozenem minicom (tolk da se zadeva skonekta), ga ugasnem in pozenem pppd /dev/modem (mam valda tut nastavlen use prou v /etc/ppp/options). Zdej pa tko, do pred kratkim je use lepo funcioniral (ze ksn let pa pou), zdej pa ucasih kr noce gor. Ce grem gledat z ifconfig, se vid da hodjo paketki sm pa ke (/dev/ppp0) ampak PPP se pa ne posatau. MTU mam na 576 se mi zdi ampak tm kr kaze skos 1500 (sej u tistih primerih, ka se zadeva skonekta mi lepo kaze 576). Enkat mi je v syslog napisal da ne more postaut zadeve zato ka linija ni 8 bitna al neki tazga (samo enkat mi je to najavl) pa ene parkat mi je clo IP dolocl v vecino primerih pa se tega ne... Dej ce mas ksno idejo al pa ce si se ze kdaj soocu s podobnim problemom mi plz sporoc (cimprej), ker je tole full nasty... lp, BlaYO From casar na uni-mb.si Mon Feb 10 09:39:54 1997 From: casar na uni-mb.si (Ales Casar) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:13:49 2004 Subject: Slovenski HOWTO, predlog dopolnitev References: Message-ID: On Sun, 9 Feb 1997, Primoz Peterlin wrote: > Ce ima kdo se kaksno misel, kaj bi sodilo zraven, bi prosil, da izkoristi > priloznost in jo napise. Se da kje videti trenutno verzijo? Mislim to novo. Ales -- Ales Casar | InterNet: Casar@uni-mb.si, A.Casar@ieee.org, Faculty of EE & CS | A.Casar@s-gms.ms.edus.si University of Maribor | DECnet: RCUM::ALES SLOVENIA | WWW: http://www.el.feri.uni-mb.si/~ales/ From jack na ro.zrsss.si Wed Feb 19 08:37:45 1997 From: jack na ro.zrsss.si (Jaka Mele) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:13:52 2004 Subject: LUGOS M.L in programski jeziki ->Re: Sort za polje struktur References: <330A45A2.409B@tyr.fe.uni-lj.si> Message-ID: On Wed, 19 Feb 1997, Andrej Cedilnik wrote: > > > en c-jevski problem: > > > sedaj pa nekaj nafila to z elementi in rad bi to sorteral po kodi. > > Prosim ce se ne oddaljujete prevec od rdece niti LINUXa... > > Replayi na tole upam da bodo sli po emailu mimo liste. > Mislim da je ta mailing lista namenjena vsem ki imajo težave, probleme, > dodatke,... kar koli v zvezi z Linux-om. Glede na to da je programski > jezik C osnova kakršnega koli resnega dela pod Linux-om menim da so > vprašanja v zvezi z jezikom C, C++, Java, TCL/TK, Perl, Awk... UMESNA! > Če pa komu to ni všeč pa predlagam novo mailing listo za programiranje > pod Linux-om. OK. Kaj ostali mislite o tem. Se bomo tu pogovarjali o LUGOSu/LINUXu nasploh, ali se bomo spuscali v globine (ce boste presteli koliko mailov dnevno dobite iz tega naslova sedaj in nato pomnozili z 2 lahko pricakujete pravo stevilko ce tole pustimo). Pa da ne bo kdo mislil da se nocem o tem pogovarjal :) Jaz brez problema odprem se eno mailing listo za recimo ostalo, s tem da se na tej listi omejimo zgolj na pomembne stvar, ki zanimajo VECINO. Ce pa se vecina strinja da poglobimo tematiko kar tu, je pa tudi z mano to ok :) bye, Jack Jaka Mele | jaka.mele@arnes.si | Those who do not understand Unix ARNES, Jamova 39 | Tel: +386 61 125-1515 | are condemned to reinvent it, SI-1000 Ljubljana | Fax: +386 61 125-5454 | poorly. Member of Linux User Group Of Slovenia http://www.zrsss.si/~lugos/ From david.klasinc na fcc.si Mon Feb 10 09:42:01 1997 From: david.klasinc na fcc.si (David Klasinc) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:14:00 2004 Subject: [StarOffice] References: <> Message-ID: <32FEDF59.190F38B2@fcc.si> Banzai! See the topic? Je ze kdo instaliral? Kako se obnese? Je sploh vredno prenasat tisto solato disket? :) Kako je z Latin2 fontki? David! From klasinc na sk-pttsc.lj.edus.si Wed Feb 19 11:58:06 1997 From: klasinc na sk-pttsc.lj.edus.si (David Klasinc) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:14:03 2004 Subject: LUGOS M.L in programski jeziki ->Re: Sort za polje struktur References: Message-ID: On Wed, 19 Feb 1997, Jaka Mele wrote: > Se bomo tu pogovarjali o LUGOSu/LINUXu nasploh, ali se bomo spuscali v snip -- snip --snip > Ce pa se vecina strinja da poglobimo tematiko kar tu, je pa tudi z > mano to ok :) Hm, kar se mailing liste tice, je namenjena Linux/Lugosu in bi bilo pomejm najbolje da tako ostane... Ampak ce se drugi zelijo o tem pogovarjat naj se, tko al kto dobivam ze tone posta na dan... Me ne bo motilo.. :) David! From andrejc na tyr.fe.uni-lj.si Mon Feb 10 10:29:19 1997 From: andrejc na tyr.fe.uni-lj.si (Andrej Cedilnik) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:14:11 2004 Subject: Wolfram Research & Linux References: Message-ID: <32FEEA6F.6C0A@tyr.fe.uni-lj.si> David Klasinc wrote: > > Andrej Cedilnik wrote: > > > Mislim da vsi malce pretiravate! > > > > Se strinjam, Linux ima prihodnost pa ąe kakąno ampak kaj moreą če pa > > skoraj nobeno podjetje ne sluľi z njim. Za win vsi izdelujejo software, > Novell? Caldera? Najdi mi en resen program za 3D grafiko, ki bo do maximuma izkoristil hardware! > > za Linux se moraą pa zelo potruditi. Meni recimo ąe vedno ni uspelo > > najti enega pametnega driverja za mojo grafično kartico ali pa recimo > Kaksno kartico pa imas? Vsaj v slackware 3.1 se mi zdi da je vec kot > 200 graficnih kartic na izbiro v xfconfig pa se od teh je nekaj > 'generic' zadev... Imam hercules dynamite 128/Video. Tisti XF86_W32 je bulshit! Andy -- * / * andrejc@tyr.fe.uni-lj.si /-\ | | |-\ \ / \|/ http://vector.nevtron.si/andy | | |\ | | | \/ \--*--\ +-+ | \| | | / /|\ "Gabber is the only drug!" | | | | |-/ / * / * "Let's get drugged!!" From gody na elgo.si Wed Feb 19 14:12:20 1997 From: gody na elgo.si (Matjaz Godec) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:14:15 2004 Subject: LUGOS M.L in programski jeziki ->Re: Sort za polje struktur References: Message-ID: On Wed, 19 Feb 1997, Jaka Mele wrote: > OK. Kaj ostali mislite o tem. > > Se bomo tu pogovarjali o LUGOSu/LINUXu nasploh, ali se bomo spuscali v > globine (ce boste presteli koliko mailov dnevno dobite iz tega naslova > sedaj in nato pomnozili z 2 lahko pricakujete pravo stevilko ce tole > pustimo). > > Pa da ne bo kdo mislil da se nocem o tem pogovarjal :) Jaz brez problema > odprem se eno mailing listo za recimo ostalo, s tem da se na tej listi > omejimo zgolj na pomembne stvar, ki zanimajo VECINO. > > Ce pa se vecina strinja da poglobimo tematiko kar tu, je pa tudi z > mano to ok :) > Jaz sem kar zato, da taksne in podobne razprave zanekrat ostanejo na tej listi. Saj smo jo tako ali tako komaj spravili k zivljenju. (Se zdaj je ogromna vecina samo pasivnih bralcev :)). Ko se pa bo promet povecal, bi pa bilo dobro razmislit o vecih listah. gody ___________________________________________________________________________ Matjaz Godec | "ELGO" Maribor d.o.o. | Electronics matjaz.godec@elgo.si | Ul. Josipa Priola 35 | Telecommunications tel/fax:+ 386 62 24 460 | SI 2ooo Maribor, Slovenija | CALDERA-LINUX http://www.elgo.si/ | Slovenian network "SloN" | Internet consultant From andrejc na tyr.fe.uni-lj.si Mon Feb 10 10:37:27 1997 From: andrejc na tyr.fe.uni-lj.si (Andrej Cedilnik) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:14:23 2004 Subject: Xi in graf. kartice References: Message-ID: <32FEEC57.48D@tyr.fe.uni-lj.si> Jaka Mele wrote: > > > On Sun, 9 Feb 1997, Andrej Cedilnik wrote: > > > > > > Se strinjam, Linux ima prihodnost pa ąe kakąno ampak kaj moreą če pa > > > skoraj nobeno podjetje ne sluľi z njim. Za win vsi izdelujejo software, > > > za Linux se moraą pa zelo potruditi. Meni recimo ąe vedno ni uspelo > > > najti enega pametnega driverja za mojo grafično kartico ali pa recimo > > > kakąen X oriented POV RAY... > > > > Eto, dve muhi na en mah. Accelerated X je komercialni X server, ki podpira > vec graficnih kartic, kot lahko sanjamo. Stvar stane okoli 100$, je pa > zlata vredna. www.x-inside.com ... mislim pa da je svoje cajte imel to > tudi Gody.. ? Jaz sem kupil ACC X v 2.1 in stvar lepo deluje na vseh karticah ki sem jih sprobal razen na moji (Hercules Dynamite 128/Video)! Stvar je taka da se kartica s tem driverjem (smao s tem) obnaša kot da bi imela pol spomina skurjenega. Pojavljajo se črtice čez zaslon in takrat ko uporablja dve strani (page) je druga stran kr-neki. Pod win95 to ne dela niti pod NT Andy Pa btw. stvar se da dobiti tudi ceneje, če si študent ali pa če imaš KUD -- * / * andrejc@tyr.fe.uni-lj.si /-\ | | |-\ \ / \|/ http://vector.nevtron.si/andy | | |\ | | | \/ \--*--\ +-+ | \| | | / /|\ "Gabber is the only drug!" | | | | |-/ / * / * "Let's get drugged!!" From casar na uni-mb.si Wed Feb 19 15:18:53 1997 From: casar na uni-mb.si (Ales Casar) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:14:27 2004 Subject: LUGOS M.L in programski jeziki ->Re: Sort za polje struktur References: Message-ID: On Wed, 19 Feb 1997, Matjaz Godec wrote: > Ko se pa bo promet povecal, bi pa bilo dobro razmislit o vecih listah. Ali pa news grupi v si.* hierarhiji. Ales -- Ales Casar | InterNet: Casar@uni-mb.si, A.Casar@ieee.org, Faculty of EE & CS | A.Casar@s-gms.ms.edus.si University of Maribor | DECnet: RCUM::ALES SLOVENIA | WWW: http://www.el.feri.uni-mb.si/~ales/ From gody na elgo.si Mon Feb 10 14:14:36 1997 From: gody na elgo.si (Matjaz Godec) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:14:48 2004 Subject: Xi in graf. kartice References: <32FEEC57.48D@tyr.fe.uni-lj.si> Message-ID: On Mon, 10 Feb 1997, Andrej Cedilnik wrote: > Jaz sem kupil ACC X v 2.1 in stvar lepo deluje na vseh karticah ki sem > jih sprobal razen na moji (Hercules Dynamite 128/Video)! > Stvar je taka da se kartica s tem driverjem (smao s tem) obnaša kot da > bi imela pol spomina skurjenega. Pojavljajo se črtice čez zaslon in > takrat ko uporablja dve strani (page) je druga stran kr-neki. > Pod win95 to ne dela niti pod NT > > Andy > Pa btw. stvar se da dobiti tudi ceneje, če si študent ali pa če imaš KUD Ja, v 1.2 ta kartica ni podprta. Črtice čez zaslon se pa pojavljajo tudi pri slabih klonih. (Na primer Asus klon z mach 64 in podobno). Pri komercialnih X strežnikih (še posebej Acc. X) je priporočljivo imeti prav točno določeno podprto kartico. gody ___________________________________________________________________________ Matjaz Godec | "ELGO" Maribor d.o.o. | Electronics matjaz.godec@elgo.si | Ul. Josipa Priola 35 | Telecommunications tel/fax:+ 386 62 24 460 | SI 2ooo Maribor, Slovenija | CALDERA-LINUX http://www.elgo.si/ | Slovenian network "SloN" | Internet consultant From rek na leila.ijs.si Thu Feb 20 06:44:50 1997 From: rek na leila.ijs.si (Zlatko Rek) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:14:52 2004 Subject: Debian Rides Space Shuttle References: <> Message-ID: <199702200544.GAA27439@ro.zrsss.si> ------- Forwarded Message In this bulletin: Debian Rides Space Shuttle: Press Release Debian Officer Election Results ************************************************************************ Here is a press release on Debian's flying on the space shuttle. If you are friends with a member of the press, please pass this on to them with a request for them to write about it. We'll be promoting this to the major computer magazines, etc. Thanks Bruce Perens NEW COMPUTER OPERATING SYSTEM RIDES SPACE SHUTTLE Contact: Bruce Perens 510-215-3502 A radically different new computer operating system is controlling an experiment on a Space Shuttle mission in late March. The experiment tests "hydroponics", a way of growing plants without soil that could eventually provide oxygen and food to astronauts. The computer controlling the experiment runs "Debian GNU/Linux", an operating system built by a group of 200 volunteer computer programmers who tele-collaborated over the Internet and never met each other. The system has many earthly uses - it can replace conventional operating systems such as Microsoft's "Windows 95" on personal computers. In a departure from conventional operating system practice, the volunteer group is giving the system and all of its source code away for free. Details are available on the group's web site: http:/www.debian.org/ . "Linux is the modern successor to the Unix operating system developed by Bell Labs during the 1970's", said Bruce Perens, leader of the Debian project. "A Finnish college student started Linux in the early 1990's, and was joined by others on the Internet who helped develop the system. We united Linux with free software contributed by other volunteers to make a complete system of 800 software packages. The result communicates on the Internet and includes, for free, many normally-expensive programs such as web servers, computer languages like Java, C, and C++, and many other programs". The space shuttle experiment will fly on mission STS-83 in late March and early April. Sebastian Kuzminsky is an engineer working on the computer that controls the experiment, which is operated by Biosciences Corporation. Kuzminsky said "The experiment studies the growth of plants in microgravity. It uses a miniature '486 PC-compatible computer, the Ampro CoreModule 4DXi. Debian GNU/Linux is loaded on this system in place of DOS or Windows. The fragility and power drain of disk drives ruled them out for this experiment, and a solid-state disk replacement from the SanDisk company is used in their place. The entire system uses only 10 watts", said Kuzminsky, as much electricity as a night-light. "The computer controls an experiment in hydroponics, or the growth of plants without soil", said Kuzminsky. "It controls water and light for the growing plants, and sends telemetry and video of the plants to the ground". Educators have also gravitated to the "Debian GNU/Linux" system. David Teague, a computer prof at Western Carolina University, says "most of the laboratories in our CS department run Debian. We use it to teach programming, operating systems, system administration, and web page design". Schools from the primary grades to college use the system to provide inexpensive Internet access to their students. "Most of us are computer professionals, but we produced Debian GNU/Linux as a hobby project", said Perens, who works as a graphics programmer for the company that made "Toy Story". "It started out three years ago as a loose collaboration of 60 people who had communicated on the Internet but had never met each other. We were dissatisfied with the operating systems available to us, which had not kept pace with the development of our computer hardware. We felt that the 'net had become so big that we could bring a group of volunteer programmers together on it to produce things that had only been made by huge companies up to now. We hoped that lots of people would put the system we created to serious use, but we couldn't advertise it except by making a web page and talking about it on the Internet. It didn't take long for us to pick up thousands of users, and for the volunteer staff to swell to 200 programmers from all over the world. People were taking Microsoft off of their systems to install Debian". Today the system has spawned its own non-profit organization, "Software in the Public Interest", to support further development. The members come from every continent in the world. "We're still interested in picking up more volunteers", said Perens, "and we always welcome new users". People interested in the system can learn about "Debian GNU/Linux" on the group's web site "www.debian.org". The web site provides free downloads of the entire system, and instructions on installing it. *********************************************************************** DEBIAN OFFICER ELECTIONS From: Daniel Quinlan As Secretary for the Board of Directors for "Software in the Public Interest", the non-profit organization running the Debian Project, I have the following preliminary news to report: ELECTIONS Bruce Perens has been elected President (or Project Leader) Daniel Quinlan has been elected Secretary; and Tim Sailer has been elected Treasurer. These positions all have one-year terms. All of these elections were held within the board and were uncontested. OFFICIAL MANDATE In addition, the board passed a motion to vest the full power to run the organization in Bruce Perens until the board has drafted and passed its constitution. He now has official clearance to run the Software in the Public Interest and the Debian Project as he sees fit. We are now in the process of drafting and ratifing a constitution. - -- Daniel Quinlan (quinlan@pathname.com) At work (quinlan@transmeta.com) http://www.pathname.com/~quinlan/ PGP key available - http or finger - -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to debian-announce-REQUEST@lists.debian.org . Trouble? e-mail to Bruce@Pixar.com ------- End of Forwarded Message From gody na elgo.si Mon Feb 10 14:19:36 1997 From: gody na elgo.si (Matjaz Godec) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:15:01 2004 Subject: Wolfram Research & Linux References: <32FEEA6F.6C0A@tyr.fe.uni-lj.si> Message-ID: On Mon, 10 Feb 1997, Andrej Cedilnik wrote: > Najdi mi en resen program za 3D grafiko, ki bo do maximuma izkoristil > hardware! Kaksno mašino pa imaš ? Mojega bogega pentiumčka izkoristi ze kar precej programov, ki so na voljo. BTW: a si mogoče probal brlcad ? Je program ameriške vojske in rabiš licenco (zaradi ključa), drugače je pa free. (Hmm, k meni je licenca hodila več kot 2 leti :)) Ali si mislil kaksen specifičen grafični hardware. V tem primeru je tako vse odvisno samo od X strežnika. > Imam hercules dynamite 128/Video. Tisti XF86_W32 je bulshit! > A že XFree 3.2 ? gody ___________________________________________________________________________ Matjaz Godec | "ELGO" Maribor d.o.o. | Electronics matjaz.godec@elgo.si | Ul. Josipa Priola 35 | Telecommunications tel/fax:+ 386 62 24 460 | SI 2ooo Maribor, Slovenija | CALDERA-LINUX http://www.elgo.si/ | Slovenian network "SloN" | Internet consultant From andrejc na tyr.fe.uni-lj.si Thu Feb 20 08:40:48 1997 From: andrejc na tyr.fe.uni-lj.si (Andrej Cedilnik) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:15:05 2004 Subject: LUGOS M.L in programski jeziki ->Re: Sort za polje struktur References: Message-ID: <330C0000.6C0C@tyr.fe.uni-lj.si> Matjaz Godec wrote: > > On Wed, 19 Feb 1997, Jaka Mele wrote: > > > OK. Kaj ostali mislite o tem. > > > > Se bomo tu pogovarjali o LUGOSu/LINUXu nasploh, ali se bomo spuscali v > > globine (ce boste presteli koliko mailov dnevno dobite iz tega naslova > > sedaj in nato pomnozili z 2 lahko pricakujete pravo stevilko ce tole > > pustimo). > > > > Pa da ne bo kdo mislil da se nocem o tem pogovarjal :) Jaz brez problema > > odprem se eno mailing listo za recimo ostalo, s tem da se na tej listi > > omejimo zgolj na pomembne stvar, ki zanimajo VECINO. > > > > Ce pa se vecina strinja da poglobimo tematiko kar tu, je pa tudi z > > mano to ok :) > > > > Jaz sem kar zato, da taksne in podobne razprave zanekrat ostanejo na tej > listi. Saj smo jo tako ali tako komaj spravili k zivljenju. (Se zdaj je > ogromna vecina samo pasivnih bralcev :)). > > Ko se pa bo promet povecal, bi pa bilo dobro razmislit o vecih listah. Me veseli da me podpirate. Andy -- * / * andrejc@tyr.fe.uni-lj.si /-\ | | |-\ \ / \|/ http://www.nevtron.si/andy/ | | |\ | | | \/ \--*--\ +-+ | \| | | / /|\ "Gabber is the only drug!" | | | | |-/ / * / * "Let's get drugged!!" From feri na fiz.uni-lj.si Mon Feb 10 14:38:39 1997 From: feri na fiz.uni-lj.si (Ferenc Kiraly) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:15:14 2004 Subject: [StarOffice] References: <32FEDF59.190F38B2@fcc.si> Message-ID: <199702101338.OAA06014@ro.zrsss.si> > > Banzai! > > See the topic? Je ze kdo instaliral? Kako se obnese? Je sploh vredno > prenasat tisto solato disket? :) Kako je z Latin2 fontki? > > David! > Howdy! Jst sem preizkusil StarOffice beta1, beta2 in beta3. Zdaj cakam na beta4, ki bo zuni menda nekje aprila. Zadeva zgleda zlo dobra, ampak samo zgleda. Zaenkrat je se prevec nestabilna za resno uporabo. Najvecje tezave so z instalacijo. Pr beta 2 instalacija ni prou delala. Lahko si zinstalirou StarOffice samo za enega userja. Pri beta3 so rekli, da je zadeva popravljena in da setup program dela, ampak jst dobim samo core dump. Web browser ne dela in ves internet bar je boljse pustiti pri miru. Ko bo zadeva koncno delala, bo pa zelo zabavno editirati fajle, ki se nahajajo na kaksnem oddaljenem racunalniku. Imena fajlov so namrec podana kr z URLji. Star Draw je lih tko dober kot Corel Draw, Star Writer je vsaj tako dober kot Word, etc. Paket bo idealen za tiste, ki mislijo, da je lazje delati ce klikas z misko. Jst se bom veselil Star Draw-ja, za editiranje bom pa se kr naprej uporabljal TeX in emacs. S fonti se se nisem igral, solato disket se pa splaca prenasati samo, ce mislis, da bos koga (vkjucno s seboj) preprical, da se splaca se malo pocakati do koncne verzije. Feri. From gody na elgo.si Thu Feb 20 16:09:39 1997 From: gody na elgo.si (Matjaz Godec) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:15:19 2004 Subject: Press Release References: <> Message-ID: <330C6933.1C172AE1@elgo.si> Caldera bo v svoji "COL Standard" verziji vlkjucila tudi Star Office. Vec o tem na strani: http://www.caldera.com/mnews/npr/stard.html -- ___________________________________________________________________________ Matjaz Godec | "ELGO" Maribor d.o.o. | Electronics matjaz.godec@elgo.si | Ul. Josipa Priola 35 | Telecommunications tel/fax:+ 386 62 24 460 | SI 2ooo Maribor, Slovenija | CALDERA-LINUX http://www.elgo.si/ | Slovenian network "SloN" | Internet consultant http://www.caldera.com/mnews/npr/stard.html"> Press Release FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE CALDERA AND STAR DIVISION TO PROVIDE STAROFFICE 3.1 FOR OPENLINUX Internet-savvy Office Suite and OpenLinux' Internet Protocols Extend Interaction Between Information and the Internet Provo, UT--February 17, 1997--Caldera Inc. and STAR DIVISION GmbH today announced plans for an OpenLinux port of StarOffice 3.1, praised in the trade press as a technologically pioneering office suite. The OpenLinux port of StarOffice 3.1 will be shipped with future versions of OpenLinux. StarOffice 3.1 adds full-featured, Internet-savvy productivity applications to OpenLinux' broad collection of Internet/networking protocols and open-source operating system. "The addition of StarOffice 3.1 to the OpenLinux product line follows Caldera's focus to extend connectivity between end users, networks and the Internet," said Bryan Sparks, president and CEO of Caldera. "The addition of StarOffice to OpenLinux dramatically increases the users' ability to browse, author and publish to the Internet while accessing information remote or local from corporate networks." Marco Börries, President and CEO of German-based STAR DIVISION adds, "According to IDC, StarOffice attained a market share of 21.9 percent in Germany within just three months of introduction. The StarOffice/OpenLinux business suite solution gives end users unmatched interaction between productivity applications, Intranets and the Internet." The StarOffice/OpenLinux solution extends existing environments by providing Inter/Intranets solutions that include: Stand-alone or Remote administration/authoring workstation (client and server integration with corporate environments, like Novell, SCO UNIX, Microsoft and others) Development platform (open-source model and a variety of Application Programming Interfaces) Workgroup server (cost-effective, secure Netscape FastTrack server option) StarOffice 3.1 StarOffice 3.1 is a complete Internet-enabled, multi-platform office suite available for Linux. The suite supports HTML 3.0 auto-browsing and auto-linking functions across all applications, enabling transparent opening, editing and saving of documents using HTTP and FTP. A common WYSIWYG interface provides drag and drop between the bookmark and edit windows, including document uploading. The suite's shared-code design provides greater consistency with fewer resources, and includes: StarWriter 3.1 (word processor) StarCalc 3.1 (spreadsheet) StarDraw 3.1 (graphics and presentation package) StarImage 3.1 (image manipulation) StarChart (bar, pie and many other charts) StarGallery (multimedia tool) OpenLinux Standard plans include: OpenLinux® is an open-source, 32-bit, Linux 2.x-based platform for extending local area networks to the home, branch office, remote user and the Internet. OpenLinux increases connectivity between corporate networks, including NetWare, UNIX, Windows NT, and the Internet. OpenLinux Standard includes: StarOffice 3.1 OpenLinux Base (Linux 2.x, Graphical User Interface, etc.) NetWare Client administrative utilities (Enhanced NDS object administration and tightly integrated GUI desktop utilities) Netscape FastTrack Server (a secure web server for creating and managing web sites) Netscape Navigator 3.0 Gold (Java , news reader and authoring tools) ...and other technologies Availability and Pricing A single user commercial license of StarOffice 3.1 will be included with OpenLinux Standard, scheduled to ship in May, and with OpenLinux Deluxe, scheduled to ship later this year. A non- commercial license of Star Office 3.1 for OpenLinux will be included with future releases of OpenLinux Base. StarOffice 3.1 for OpenLinux as a standalone product is also scheduled to ship in May to meet the growing demand for commercial applications in the Linux market. OpenLinux Standard, which includes Star Office 3.1, will have a suggested retail price of $299 US. There are Caldera resellers in 47 countries worldwide. To locate a local reseller, visit Caldera's web site at http://www.caldera.com/ or call (800) 850-7779 in the United States or (801) 269-7012 (0) outside the United States. Caldera, Inc. provides economical solutions that glue and extend new and existing computer systems, including NetWare® , Sun® Solaris˜ , SCO® UNIX® and Windows NT®, to each other and the Internet. Caldera uses its own technological and marketing resources to leverage technologies including the Linux operating system created by independent developers worldwide, and the OpenDOS product range. Visit the Caldera web site at http://www.caldera.com/. For orders and information call (800) 850-7779 in the US or +44 (0) 1923 208440 internationally. --end Caldera is a registered trademark in the United States and other countries; and OpenLinux, OpenDOS, Caldera Network Desktop, Caldera Solutions CD and NetGlue are trademarks or registered trademarks of Caldera Inc. STAR DIVISION is a registered trademark in Germany and other countries: and StarOffice, StarWriter, StarDraw, StarCalc, StarImage, StarChart and StarGallery are trademarks or registered trademarks of STAR DIVISION. All other products, services, companies and publications are trademarks or registered trademarks of their respective owners. Press Contacts: Caldera, Inc. Nancy Pomeroy nancy.pomeroy@caldera.com Tel: (801) 377-7687 ext. 206 Fax: (801) 377-8752 STAR DIVISION GmbH Astrid Huette ah@stardivision.de Tel: +49 (0) 40 23 646 810 Fax: +49 (0) 40 23 646 550 From benjamin.zeleznik na siol.net Wed Feb 12 20:40:55 1997 From: benjamin.zeleznik na siol.net (Benjamin Zeleznik) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:15:24 2004 Subject: [ LUGOS ] Tezava z misko - 2., zadnji del References: <> Message-ID: <01bc191c$aa1c6ea0$LocalHost@default> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BC1925.0BE0D6A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable David, Frenk, Danilo! Se enkrat hvala za pomoc. Drzal sem se vasih navodil, vendar ni pomagalo = (moje poznavanje linuxa je zaenkrat se veliko premajhno). Tako sem se = lotil resevanja problema na bolj laicni nacin: se tretjic sem instaliral = linux. In to ne priporoceno konfiguracijo, kot prve trikrat, ampak = maksimalno. In sedaj dela. Preprican sem, da se mi prej pri bootanju = sploh ni nalozila podpora za serijska vrata (ceprav sem jih v setupu = oznacil), ker prej nisem videl tistih vrstic, sedaj pa jih (ttyS0...). = Zakaj tako, nimam pojma. Lep pozdrav vsem skupaj. Zagotovo se bom se oglasil, se prej pa se bom = zakopal v knjige. Beno ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BC1925.0BE0D6A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
David, Frenk, Danilo!
 
Se enkrat hvala za pomoc. Drzal sem = se vasih=20 navodil, vendar ni pomagalo (moje poznavanje linuxa je zaenkrat se = veliko=20 premajhno). Tako sem se lotil resevanja problema na bolj laicni nacin: = se=20 tretjic sem instaliral linux. In to ne priporoceno konfiguracijo, kot = prve=20 trikrat, ampak maksimalno. In sedaj dela. Preprican sem, da se mi prej = pri=20 bootanju sploh ni nalozila podpora za serijska vrata (ceprav sem jih v = setupu=20 oznacil), ker prej nisem videl tistih vrstic, sedaj pa jih (ttyS0...). = Zakaj=20 tako, nimam pojma.
 
Lep pozdrav vsem skupaj. Zagotovo se = bom se=20 oglasil, se prej pa se bom zakopal v knjige.
 
Beno
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BC1925.0BE0D6A0-- From andrejc na tyr.fe.uni-lj.si Mon Feb 10 18:57:18 1997 From: andrejc na tyr.fe.uni-lj.si (Andrej Cedilnik) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:15:29 2004 Subject: Xi in graf. kartice References: Message-ID: <32FF617E.565E@tyr.fe.uni-lj.si> Matjaz Godec wrote: > > On Mon, 10 Feb 1997, Andrej Cedilnik wrote: > > > Jaz sem kupil ACC X v 2.1 in stvar lepo deluje na vseh karticah ki sem > > jih sprobal razen na moji (Hercules Dynamite 128/Video)! > > Stvar je taka da se kartica s tem driverjem (smao s tem) obnaąa kot da > > bi imela pol spomina skurjenega. Pojavljajo se črtice čez zaslon in > > takrat ko uporablja dve strani (page) je druga stran kr-neki. > > Pod win95 to ne dela niti pod NT > > > > Andy > > Pa btw. stvar se da dobiti tudi ceneje, če si ątudent ali pa če imaą KUD > > Ja, v 1.2 ta kartica ni podprta. Črtice čez zaslon se pa pojavljajo tudi > pri slabih klonih. (Na primer Asus klon z mach 64 in podobno). Pri > komercialnih X streľnikih (ąe posebej Acc. X) je priporočljivo imeti prav > točno določeno podprto kartico. Daj zrihtaj si da boš pošiljal samo en mail.... Andy -- * / * andrejc@tyr.fe.uni-lj.si /-\ | | |-\ \ / \|/ http://vector.nevtron.si/andy | | |\ | | | \/ \--*--\ +-+ | \| | | / /|\ "Gabber is the only drug!" | | | | |-/ / * / * "Let's get drugged!!" From miha.tomsic na fmf.uni-lj.si Fri Feb 21 06:51:40 1997 From: miha.tomsic na fmf.uni-lj.si (Miha Tomsic Mike) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:15:34 2004 Subject: Podpisi na notariatu References: <> Message-ID: <> Hojla! On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, Dragan Nedeljkovic wrote: > > Kdo mora iti podpisat? > Consider it done:), upam da delajo tudi popoldan. Zal odgovarjam malo pozno... Delajo skoraj vedno... :) Se vedno kadar sem bil tam so delali... Bye, Mike... - Miha Tomsic Mike -- C. na postajo 55 -- 1351 Brezovica pri Lj. -- SLOVENIA - - home-made -- electronics -- music -- industrial -- physics -- net -- linux - - phylosophy -- poetry -- arts ---- Lower Parts of Abdomen ---- Josef Banale - From Dragan.Nedeljkovic na kiss.uni-lj.si Mon Feb 10 22:42:14 1997 From: Dragan.Nedeljkovic na kiss.uni-lj.si (Dragan Nedeljkovic) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:15:44 2004 Subject: Caldera openDOS References: Message-ID: <32FF9636.2A83@kiss.uni-lj.si> Jaka Mele wrote: > Pod zadnjim dosemu-jem se da spilati DUke, quake, doom2 ... Zelo zanimivo, nisem vedel, bomo po izpitih malo sprobal stvar... Sem impresioniran... > Mogoce bi bilo fino sprobat... Ce bi se kdo ful ukvarjal s tem lahko tudi > kaj napise pa in bomo objavili v Win.Ini... (to velja za vse - ce imate > kaksne ideje, zilico za pisanje , feel free to write)... Ce se cesa spomnim, ti bomo vsekakor poslal... Dragan! -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2i mQCNAzLd16wAAAEEALrdF8SU/r71/47hcdlahKeqA74OmLrIGWsi+dFNCWcogZNQ tFKZLZWtekITpj/G/yBp0u6hjgBx0GyN+H4KY9ui7Wo+0abJOY1WVs88YU8TNoDv yIT6NUDx3qteInt0Kn2yLmUodCgImreCKYq1nlbLQ4AB48DLPr1VMQbYgaLpAAUR tDZEcmFnYW4gTmVkZWxqa292aWMgPERyYWdhbi5OZWRlbGprb3ZpY0BraXNzLnVu aS1sai5zaT4= =iPS5 -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From jack na ro.zrsss.si Fri Feb 21 09:10:46 1997 From: jack na ro.zrsss.si (Jaka Mele) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:15:49 2004 Subject: REGISTRACIJA DRUSTVA References: <> Message-ID: | Na seznamu smo: Miha Tom"si"c, Jaka Mele, Dragan Nedeljkovi"c, | Matja"z Perme, Primo"z Peterlin, Eduard Pohl, Du"san Mati"c, Matja"z | Godec, Edi "Suc in Jure Koren. Vceraj sem bil pri notarju(ki). Tam sem srecal se Primoza :) Podpisalo pa nas je torej do vceraj 15.00 stirje (jaz, Mike, Dragan in Primoz). Dajmo ostali, zmigajte se. Odprto imajo mislim da do 16 ure, skratka evropski delavni cajt, zadeva je pa v 12. nadstropju TR3 (pri maxiju, una velika ex-iskra stavba - zdaj ibm - z displejem na strehi) :) Matjaz, Eduard, Dusan, Matjaz in Jure, ajmo, ajmo! :) Da ste do srede vsi podpisali! bye, Jack Jaka Mele | jaka.mele@arnes.si | Those who do not understand Unix ARNES, Jamova 39 | Tel: +386 61 125-1515 | are condemned to reinvent it, SI-1000 Ljubljana | Fax: +386 61 125-5454 | poorly. Member of Linux User Group Of Slovenia http://www.zrsss.si/~lugos/ From ales.horvat na nevtron.si Mon Feb 10 23:53:53 1997 From: ales.horvat na nevtron.si (Ales Horvat) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:15:59 2004 Subject: Caldera WABI References: Message-ID: <32FFA701.3678@nevtron.si> Hi. Ima kdo izkusnje s Caldera WABIjem? Ce laufa Office 6.0 in Corel 5.0 ne rabim nic drugega. Je to res? Bye, A. From peterlin na biofiz.mf.uni-lj.si Fri Feb 21 10:24:23 1997 From: peterlin na biofiz.mf.uni-lj.si (Primoz Peterlin) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:16:04 2004 Subject: Podpisi na notariatu References: Message-ID: > > Consider it done:), upam da delajo tudi popoldan. > Zal odgovarjam malo pozno... Delajo skoraj vedno... :) Se vedno kadar sem > bil tam so delali... Hudirja, si imel pa res sreco! Notariati delajo od ponedeljka do cetrtka od 9h do 12h ter od 14h do 16h, ob petkih pa, mislim, od 9h do 11h ter od 12h do 14h. Lep pozdrav, Primoz -- Primoz Peterlin email: primoz.peterlin@biofiz.mf.uni-lj.si Institut za biofiziko MF, Lipiceva 2, SLO-1105 Ljubljana, Slovenija Fax: +386-61-131-5127 WWW: http://sizif.mf.uni-lj.si/~peterlin/ From gody na elgo.si Tue Feb 11 00:15:07 1997 From: gody na elgo.si (Matjaz Godec) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:16:15 2004 Subject: Caldera WABI References: <32FFA701.3678@nevtron.si> Message-ID: On Mon, 10 Feb 1997, Ales Horvat wrote: > Hi. > > Ima kdo izkusnje s Caldera WABIjem? > > Ce laufa Office 6.0 in Corel 5.0 ne rabim nic drugega. Je to res? > > Bye, > A. > Za Word 6.0 je to res za corel 5.0 pa ne vem. Wabi 2.2 stane trenutno (priporočena cena) 32.990,00 SIT in je na zalogi. Za delovanje pa je potrebna tudi kopija Win 3.1 ali WfW. Aplikacije, ki certificirano delujejo pod Wabi 2.2. so: Wabi 2.2 Application Support Microsoft Office 4.3 Lotus SmartSuite 4.0 and 3.1 CorelDraw 4.0 and 3.0 Microsoft Word for Windows 6.0 and 2.0 Lotus WordPro 96 Intuit Quicken Deluxe 4.0, 4.0 and 3.0 Microsoft PowerPoint 4.0 and 3.0 Lotus Amipro 3.1 ProComm Plus 2.11 and 1.02 Microsoft Excel 5.0 and 4.0 Lotus Freelance Graphics 2.1 and 2.01 Harvard Graphics 3.0 and 2.0 Microsoft Access 2.0 Lotus 1-2-3 for Windows 5.0 and 4.0 Aldus PageMaker 5.0 and 4.0 Microsoft Mail 3.2 Lotus Organizer 2.1 and 2.01 Paradox for Windows 5.0 and 4.5 Microsoft Project 4.0 and 3.0 Lotus Approach 3.02 and 2.1 Quattro Pro for Windows 6.0 and 5.0 Microsoft Windows 3.11 and 3.1 Lotus cc:Mail 2.2 and 2.03 Microsoft Windows for Workgroups 3.11 Lotus Notes 3.3 and 3.0 WordPerfect for Windows 6.1 and 6.0a Morda bi lahko o Corel 5.0 komentiral Jaka, ki ima trenutno en WABI na testu ? gody ___________________________________________________________________________ Matjaz Godec | "ELGO" Maribor d.o.o. | Electronics matjaz.godec@elgo.si | Ul. Josipa Priola 35 | Telecommunications tel/fax:+ 386 62 24 460 | SI 2ooo Maribor, Slovenija | CALDERA-LINUX http://www.elgo.si/ | Slovenian network "SloN" | Internet consultant From andrejc na tyr.fe.uni-lj.si Fri Feb 21 13:06:40 1997 From: andrejc na tyr.fe.uni-lj.si (Andrej Cedilnik) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:16:20 2004 Subject: CeBIT References: <> Message-ID: <330D8FD0.2874@tyr.fe.uni-lj.si> Upam da ne bom užalil Jakata če bom povedal na tej mailing listi da je nekaj prostih mest še za CeBIT '97 v Hannovru. Pojdite na drugi največji sejem računalništva. Cena je 10.000 SIT. V to je vštet prevoz in spanje, vstopnino pa bomo pobrali naknadno, ko bomo vedeli koliko bo prijavljenih. Prijavite se na Info točkah ŠOU. Izlet vodim Andrej Cedilnik. Pa še nekaj. Bil sem tam lansko leto in je vredno. Take dekoracije stene kakršno sem naredil iz demo CD-jk bi verjetno plačal nekaj 1000 DEM. Pa še cel kup poznanstev sem naredil. Andy -- * / * andrejc@tyr.fe.uni-lj.si /-\ | | |-\ \ / \|/ http://www.nevtron.si/andy/ | | |\ | | | \/ \--*--\ +-+ | \| | | / /|\ "Gabber is the only drug!" | | | | |-/ / * / * "Let's get drugged!!" From ales.horvat na nevtron.si Tue Feb 11 00:46:15 1997 From: ales.horvat na nevtron.si (Ales Horvat) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:16:31 2004 Subject: Caldera WABI References: Message-ID: <32FFB347.1670@nevtron.si> Matjaz Godec wrote: > > Ima kdo izkusnje s Caldera WABIjem? > > > > Ce laufa Office 6.0 in Corel 5.0 ne rabim nic drugega. Je to res? > Za Word 6.0 je to res za corel 5.0 pa ne vem. > > Wabi 2.2 Application Support > > CorelDraw 4.0 and 3.0 Ce so eksplicitno navedli le verzijo 3 in 4 potem verjetno 5 ne deluje. Obstaja kaksna time trial / preview / demo verzija zadeve (WABIja)? Bye, A. From andrejc na tyr.fe.uni-lj.si Fri Feb 21 13:09:43 1997 From: andrejc na tyr.fe.uni-lj.si (Andrej Cedilnik) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:16:36 2004 Subject: Beta-tester needed References: <> Message-ID: <330D9087.2A3E@tyr.fe.uni-lj.si> Rabim nekaj beta testerjev enega programa... Imeti mora internet dostop Andy -- * / * andrejc@tyr.fe.uni-lj.si /-\ | | |-\ \ / \|/ http://www.nevtron.si/andy/ | | |\ | | | \/ \--*--\ +-+ | \| | | / /|\ "Gabber is the only drug!" | | | | |-/ / * / * "Let's get drugged!!" From gody na elgo.si Tue Feb 11 01:18:18 1997 From: gody na elgo.si (Matjaz Godec) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:16:47 2004 Subject: Caldera WABI References: <32FFB347.1670@nevtron.si> Message-ID: On Tue, 11 Feb 1997, Ales Horvat wrote: > Matjaz Godec wrote: > > Ce so eksplicitno navedli le verzijo 3 in 4 potem verjetno 5 ne deluje. Ne ni to. V casu, ko je WABI 2.2 nastal ocitno se ni bilo verzije 5. Sam sem probal nekaj aplikacij, ki jih ni na listi pa so delovale cisto OK. Edini problemi so z aplikacijami, ki hocejo na tak ali drugacen nacin dostopat do strojne opreme direktno (Like demoti za mgpeg playerje in podobno). > > Obstaja kaksna time trial / preview / demo verzija zadeve (WABIja)? > Sorry ne. WABI je licencen Sun Softov produkt in Caldera ima precej zvezane roke glede cene in prodaje. Je pa Linux verzija dalec cenejsa od vseh ostalih. Ce bi Lugos imel kak testni racunalnik, bi lahko zadevo sponzoriral za instalacijo na njem, sicer pa na zalost ne morem kaj dosti drugega narediti. Pa smo ze spet pri eni od zacetnih tem na tej listi, ki se dotika clanarine za lugos :)) gody PS. Ce gre za delovanje konkretnega programa, ga lahko naceloma preizkusimo pri nas (ali pa prides kar sam poizkusit). Problem je predvsem v tem, da pri nas uporabljamo zelo malo Windows programja in ne moremo vseh stvari stestirat. ___________________________________________________________________________ Matjaz Godec | "ELGO" Maribor d.o.o. | Electronics matjaz.godec@elgo.si | Ul. Josipa Priola 35 | Telecommunications tel/fax:+ 386 62 24 460 | SI 2ooo Maribor, Slovenija | CALDERA-LINUX http://www.elgo.si/ | Slovenian network "SloN" | Internet consultant From casar na uni-mb.si Fri Feb 21 13:53:30 1997 From: casar na uni-mb.si (Ales Casar) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:16:53 2004 Subject: Beta-tester needed References: <330D9087.2A3E@tyr.fe.uni-lj.si> Message-ID: On Fri, 21 Feb 1997, Andrej Cedilnik wrote: > Rabim nekaj beta testerjev enega programa... > > Imeti mora internet dostop In kaksna oprema je za to potrebna? Kaksen HW, OS, SW,...? Ales -- Ales Casar | InterNet: Casar@uni-mb.si, A.Casar@ieee.org, Faculty of EE & CS | A.Casar@s-gms.ms.edus.si University of Maribor | DECnet: RCUM::ALES SLOVENIA | WWW: http://www.el.feri.uni-mb.si/~ales/ From casar na uni-mb.si Tue Feb 11 08:08:06 1997 From: casar na uni-mb.si (Ales Casar) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:17:04 2004 Subject: Xi in graf. kartice References: <32FF617E.565E@tyr.fe.uni-lj.si> Message-ID: On Mon, 10 Feb 1997, Andrej Cedilnik wrote: > Daj zrihtaj si da boš pošiljal samo en mail.... Ti pa, da bos posiljal samo ASCII maile... Ales -- Ales Casar | InterNet: Casar@uni-mb.si, A.Casar@ieee.org, Faculty of EE & CS | A.Casar@s-gms.ms.edus.si University of Maribor | DECnet: RCUM::ALES SLOVENIA | WWW: http://www.el.feri.uni-mb.si/~ales/ From miha.tomsic na fmf.uni-lj.si Sat Feb 22 07:48:34 1997 From: miha.tomsic na fmf.uni-lj.si (Miha Tomsic Mike) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:17:09 2004 Subject: Podatkovne baze References: <> Message-ID: <> Hojla! A se je ze nasel kdo, ki bi obvladal podatkovne baze in bi prevzel blagajnistvo drustva. Oz. bi moral za to skrbeti nekdo drug od organov... Ce se gremo, se pejmo resno... Drugace bom dal odpoved in bom sel spat... ;) Bye, Mike... - Miha Tomsic Mike -- C. na postajo 55 -- 1351 Brezovica pri Lj. -- SLOVENIA - - home-made -- electronics -- music -- industrial -- physics -- net -- linux - - phylosophy -- poetry -- arts ---- Lower Parts of Abdomen ---- Josef Banale - From snowman na hal9000.medinet.si Tue Feb 11 10:09:56 1997 From: snowman na hal9000.medinet.si (Alen Salamun) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:17:38 2004 Subject: Mach64 in svgalib References: <> Message-ID: Hi! Ima kdo kaksno resitev za goraj navedeno kombinacijo???? svgalib s to kartico ne dela novega svgalib-a pa ni in ni od nikoder... LP, Alen | Alen Salamun | EMAIL: snowman@hal9000.medinet.si | | -= LiNUX User = | WWW: http://www.medinet.si | | -= The only REAL OS =- | From andrejc na tyr.fe.uni-lj.si Sat Feb 22 08:35:50 1997 From: andrejc na tyr.fe.uni-lj.si (Andrej Cedilnik) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:17:44 2004 Subject: Beta-tester needed References: Message-ID: <330EA1D6.6D89@tyr.fe.uni-lj.si> Ales Casar wrote: > > On Fri, 21 Feb 1997, Andrej Cedilnik wrote: > > > Rabim nekaj beta testerjev enega programa... > > > > Imeti mora internet dostop > > In kaksna oprema je za to potrebna? Kaksen HW, OS, SW,...? Imeti moraš samo internet dostop direktni ali ppp in en browser ki podpira forme in tabele. Andy -- * / * andrejc@tyr.fe.uni-lj.si /-\ | | |-\ \ / \|/ http://www.nevtron.si/andy/ | | |\ | | | \/ \--*--\ +-+ | \| | | / /|\ "Gabber is the only drug!" | | | | |-/ / * / * "Let's get drugged!!" From jack na ro.zrsss.si Tue Feb 11 15:37:14 1997 From: jack na ro.zrsss.si (Jaka Mele) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:17:57 2004 Subject: Mach64 in svgalib References: Message-ID: > > Ima kdo kaksno resitev za goraj navedeno kombinacijo???? svgalib s to > kartico ne dela novega svgalib-a pa ni in ni od nikoder... > Ne... :( Sam cakam ze leto in pol... Nekaj mesecev nazaj se je susljalo, zdaj pa bo, zdaj pa bo, samo je potem zamrlo.. Sem govoril tudi z upravljalcem svgalib, pa je rekel naj jaz napisem, ce rabim ;) bye, Jack Jaka Mele | jaka.mele@arnes.si | Those who do not understand Unix ARNES, Jamova 39 | Tel: +386 61 125-1515 | are condemned to reinvent it, SI-1000 Ljubljana | Fax: +386 61 125-5454 | poorly. Member of Linux User Group Of Slovenia http://www.zrsss.si/~lugos/ From jack na ro.zrsss.si Mon Feb 24 11:07:14 1997 From: jack na ro.zrsss.si (Jaka Mele) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:18:03 2004 Subject: TRI LINUX CDji References: <> Message-ID: Zivjo Danes sem narocil CDje. Skupaj 40 kom. Narocniki so navedeni spodaj, N-krat ste napisani, N cdjev ste narocili. Sem telefoniral na carino in bo verjetno 2% carina + 20% davka, kar pa se zmeraj pomeni (v najslabsem primeru): 40 * $3 = $120 + $30 (PTT) = $150 $150 = 22500 SIT (ce je $1 = 150 SIT) 22500 SIT + 22% = 27450 SIT 27450 SIT / 40 = 686,25 SIT Torej pod / okoli 700 sit, kot sem racunal ze na zacetku. Sicer pa bomo videli :) Vas bom obvescal o poteku :) bye, Jack Jaka Mele | jaka.mele@arnes.si | Those who do not understand Unix ARNES, Jamova 39 | Tel: +386 61 125-1515 | are condemned to reinvent it, SI-1000 Ljubljana | Fax: +386 61 125-5454 | poorly. Member of Linux User Group Of Slovenia http://www.zrsss.si/~lugos/ From jack na ro.zrsss.si Tue Feb 11 15:40:17 1997 From: jack na ro.zrsss.si (Jaka Mele) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:18:18 2004 Subject: Caldera WABI References: Message-ID: On Tue, 11 Feb 1997, Matjaz Godec wrote: > > Ima kdo izkusnje s Caldera WABIjem? > > Ce laufa Office 6.0 in Corel 5.0 ne rabim nic drugega. Je to res? > Morda bi lahko o Corel 5.0 komentiral Jaka, ki ima trenutno en WABI na > testu ? > Corla 5.0 nimam in ga nisem sprobal, dela pa res mnogo appsov, ki niso med temi "uradnimi" nekaj.. Sicer pa je iz sunovega wwwja link pa site: http://wabiapps.psgroup.com, ki vzdrzuje spisek "vseh" appsov, ki delajo.. Tu jih je kar nekaj... Jaz sem bil predvsem razocaran, ker ne dela photoshop.:| Drugace pa word 6.0 rules... :) Samo vcasih ga malo pozicija kurzorja zajebava, pa ne vem zakaj... bye, Jack Jaka Mele | jaka.mele@arnes.si | Those who do not understand Unix ARNES, Jamova 39 | Tel: +386 61 125-1515 | are condemned to reinvent it, SI-1000 Ljubljana | Fax: +386 61 125-5454 | poorly. Member of Linux User Group Of Slovenia http://www.zrsss.si/~lugos/ From jack na ro.zrsss.si Mon Feb 24 11:13:22 1997 From: jack na ro.zrsss.si (Jaka Mele) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:18:25 2004 Subject: TRI LINUX spisek narocnikov References: <> Message-ID: prej pozabil... Ales Casar mk Dori Seliskar Marko Setinc Matej Komelj Marko Luksa Uros Indihar Eduard Pohl Metod Kozelj Matjaz Godec Miha Tomsic Mike Dusan Matic Igor Zaverski ciglic@iskratel.si Jure Koren Roman Osredkar Robert Meolic, FERI Maribor, Slovenija Andrej Kruscic Marko Macek Igor Zaverski Igor Zaverski Jure Mencinger velez@iskratel.si Primoz Peterlin jurkovic@iskratel.si jurkovic@iskratel.si Lakota-Jericek Gasper David Klasinc Stojan Rancic Dori Seliskar Tadej Zupancic Alen Salamun Jure Babnik Matjaz Perme Luka Romih Luka Romih Leon Kukovec bye, Jack Jaka Mele | jaka.mele@arnes.si | Those who do not understand Unix ARNES, Jamova 39 | Tel: +386 61 125-1515 | are condemned to reinvent it, SI-1000 Ljubljana | Fax: +386 61 125-5454 | poorly. Member of Linux User Group Of Slovenia http://www.zrsss.si/~lugos/ From bostjan.jerko na siol.net Wed Feb 12 20:28:00 1997 From: bostjan.jerko na siol.net (Bostjan Jerko) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:18:42 2004 Subject: Lyx in slovenske crke References: <> Message-ID: <330219C0.5141746A@siol.net> Zdravo! Ze nekaj casa se ukvarjam z instalacijo Lyx-a. Uspelo mi je instalirati tudi slovenske fonte, vendar pa imam probleme s crko "s. Ce shranim Lyx file se shrani \xb9, kar je O.K., ce pa naredim nice LaTex file pa dobim \(\xb9\). Sicer se file se vedno pravilno pojavi v xdvi, ampak javlja napako. Druga stvar pa je slovenjenje Linux-a. Ali se kaj dogaja na tem podrocju ? Hvala, vsem in vsakemu za odgovor in lep pozdrav Bostjan P.S. Ali Wabi dela na Debina Linux-u ? From jack na ro.zrsss.si Wed Feb 26 10:02:15 1997 From: jack na ro.zrsss.si (Jaka Mele) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:18:55 2004 Subject: POJDITE K NOTARJU!!! References: <> Message-ID: Danes sem govoril z nasim notarjem. Podpisali niso se trije in sicer: Dusan Matic Edi Suc Jure Koren Dajmo, zmigajte se. Notar je na Trgu republike 3, dela 9-12 in 14-16 (pon-cet), 9-12, 13-14 (pet), telefon pa ima 1257472 ce kdo nuca. Olajsal vas bo za okoli 550sit. bye, Jack Jaka Mele | jaka.mele@arnes.si | Those who do not understand Unix ARNES, Jamova 39 | Tel: +386 61 125-1515 | are condemned to reinvent it, SI-1000 Ljubljana | Fax: +386 61 125-5454 | poorly. Member of Linux User Group Of Slovenia http://www.zrsss.si/~lugos/ From uros.platise na fov.uni-mb.si Wed Feb 12 21:55:15 1997 From: uros.platise na fov.uni-mb.si (Uros Platise) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:19:22 2004 Subject: Lyx in slovenske crke References: <330219C0.5141746A@siol.net> Message-ID: <> > Ze nekaj casa se ukvarjam z instalacijo Lyx-a. Uspelo mi je instalirati > tudi slovenske fonte, vendar pa imam probleme s crko "s. Ce shranim Lyx Hmm.. Jazz sem ga samo gor instaliral in dela vse. V menuju nastavis, da si slovenec in da bi rad svoje crke.. Dobis jih... > file se shrani \xb9, kar je O.K., ce pa naredim nice LaTex file pa dobim > \(\xb9\). Sicer se file se vedno pravilno pojavi v xdvi, ampak javlja > napako. Takoj, ko sem rekel, da sem slavenc mi je tudi to delalo.. LP uros From epohl na master.gamamm.si Wed Feb 26 10:20:34 1997 From: epohl na master.gamamm.si (Eduard Pohl) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:19:34 2004 Subject: POJDITE K NOTARJU!!! References: Message-ID: <199702260920.KAA06554@master.gamamm.si> ziv.. > > > Danes sem govoril z nasim notarjem. > Podpisali niso se trije in sicer: > > Dusan Matic > Edi Suc > Jure Koren > > Dajmo, zmigajte se. > Notar je na Trgu republike 3, dela 9-12 in 14-16 (pon-cet), 9-12, 13-14 > (pet), telefon pa ima 1257472 ce kdo nuca. Olajsal vas bo za okoli 550sit. > Trg Republike == TR3 , vse skupaj je trajalo 5 min verejtno tudi manj ce se tajnica ne bi spogledovala z sefom . ce boste imeli sreco boste videli tudi sefovo pomocnico , verjetno tudi pravnico, ki rastura po svojem noutbuku ceprav so mojo pozornost pritegnile njene noge ... prav v trenutku ko sem ji hotel razloziti vse prednosti unixa, in kako bi to uplivalo na njeno "produktivnost" mi je tajnica pod nos porinila nekaj za podpisat tako da sem moral povrhu se pogledati njeno debelo zapest ki jo je krasila ogabna kicasta ura na kateri sem opazil da imam samo se 10 min do zacetka predavanja. In tako se je koncala pet-minutna operacija Lugos na vrhu Ljubljane :)) edo From gody na elgo.si Thu Feb 13 13:22:28 1997 From: gody na elgo.si (Matjaz Godec) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:20:04 2004 Subject: Lyx in slovenske crke References: <330219C0.5141746A@siol.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 12 Feb 1997, Bostjan Jerko wrote: > Zdravo! > > Ze nekaj casa se ukvarjam z instalacijo Lyx-a. Uspelo mi je instalirati > tudi slovenske fonte, vendar pa imam probleme s crko "s. Ce shranim Lyx > file se shrani \xb9, kar je O.K., ce pa naredim nice LaTex file pa dobim > \(\xb9\). Sicer se file se vedno pravilno pojavi v xdvi, ampak javlja > napako. > > Druga stvar pa je slovenjenje Linux-a. Ali se kaj dogaja na tem podrocju > ? > > Hvala, vsem in vsakemu za odgovor in lep pozdrav > > Bostjan > > P.S. Ali Wabi dela na Debina Linux-u ? > Nacelom ja. Testiral ga na zalost se nisem. BTW: Zaradi nove politike Caldera Inc. bomo morali WABI znatno podraziti. (Sedaj namrec vse nabave gredo preko njihovega novega panevropskega distributorja, kar bo izgleda vse skupaj precej podrazilo). Nova cena wabija sicer se ni cisto dolocena ampak izgleda da bo okoli 48.000,00 do 50.000,00 SIT. gody ___________________________________________________________________________ Matjaz Godec | "ELGO" Maribor d.o.o. | Electronics matjaz.godec@elgo.si | Ul. Josipa Priola 35 | Telecommunications tel/fax:+ 386 62 24 460 | SI 2ooo Maribor, Slovenija | CALDERA-LINUX http://www.elgo.si/ | Slovenian network "SloN" | Internet consultant From jack na ro.zrsss.si Wed Feb 26 10:38:55 1997 From: jack na ro.zrsss.si (Jaka Mele) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:20:14 2004 Subject: mailing lista References: <> Message-ID: Ta dva sem ravnokar vrgel iz mailing liste, ker njihovi strezniki niso dosegljivi, ali pa strezniki ne poznajo tega usernama... Ce ju kdo pozna naj jima pove da se lahko se enkrat prijavita na listo ko se bodo zadeve uredile. bye, Jack Jaka Mele | jaka.mele@arnes.si | Those who do not understand Unix ARNES, Jamova 39 | Tel: +386 61 125-1515 | are condemned to reinvent it, SI-1000 Ljubljana | Fax: +386 61 125-5454 | poorly. Member of Linux User Group Of Slovenia http://www.zrsss.si/~lugos/ From ales.horvat na nevtron.si Thu Feb 13 21:47:27 1997 From: ales.horvat na nevtron.si (Ales Horvat) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:20:31 2004 Subject: WABI podrazitev (Was: Re: Lyx in slovenske crke) References: Message-ID: <33037DDF.671B570F@nevtron.si> Matjaz Godec wrote: > > BTW: Zaradi nove politike Caldera Inc. bomo morali WABI znatno podraziti. > (Sedaj namrec vse nabave gredo preko njihovega novega panevropskega > distributorja, kar bo izgleda vse skupaj precej podrazilo). > > Nova cena wabija sicer se ni cisto dolocena ampak izgleda da bo okoli > 48.000,00 do 50.000,00 SIT. > Boste morali podraziti ali ste ze? Ce boste podrazili, koliko casa bo na voljo ta "poceni" verzija? Bye, A. From jack na ro.zrsss.si Wed Feb 26 10:40:17 1997 From: jack na ro.zrsss.si (Jaka Mele) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:20:39 2004 Subject: mailing lista References: Message-ID: On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, Jaka Mele wrote: > Ta dva sem ravnokar vrgel iz mailing liste, ker njihovi strezniki > niso dosegljivi, ali pa strezniki ne poznajo tega usernama... > Ce ju kdo pozna naj jima pove da se lahko se enkrat prijavita na listo > ko se bodo zadeve uredile. > Ehh.. nerad delam reply na samega sebe, ampak hitri prsti so bili krivi, da nisem povedal, da mislim: s57blu@ljutcp.hamradio.si in s53zo@hotmail.com bye, Jack Jaka Mele | jaka.mele@arnes.si | Those who do not understand Unix ARNES, Jamova 39 | Tel: +386 61 125-1515 | are condemned to reinvent it, SI-1000 Ljubljana | Fax: +386 61 125-5454 | poorly. Member of Linux User Group Of Slovenia http://www.zrsss.si/~lugos/ From gody na elgo.si Thu Feb 13 22:29:36 1997 From: gody na elgo.si (Matjaz Godec) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:20:54 2004 Subject: WABI podrazitev (Was: Re: Lyx in slovenske crke) References: <33037DDF.671B570F@nevtron.si> Message-ID: On Thu, 13 Feb 1997, Ales Horvat wrote: > Boste morali podraziti ali ste ze? Ce boste podrazili, koliko casa bo na > voljo ta "poceni" verzija? > > Bye, > A. Ja, sedaj imam dva WABIja na zalogi in ta sta se po 32.990,00 SIT (pravico do spremembe glede na tecaj $/SIT si pridrzimo:(( ) Za naprej pa ne bom vedel dokler ne zvem za politiko evropskega distributorja. Po tem kar so napovedali je cisto mozno, da bomo ta nacin prodaje, ki ga imamo sedaj povsem opustili. (Do sedaj je bila zadeva v relativno majhni izgubi, po novem pa ne vem ce bo mogoce stvar vozit v mejah realnih cen). gody ___________________________________________________________________________ Matjaz Godec | "ELGO" Maribor d.o.o. | Electronics matjaz.godec@elgo.si | Ul. Josipa Priola 35 | Telecommunications tel/fax:+ 386 62 24 460 | SI 2ooo Maribor, Slovenija | CALDERA-LINUX http://www.elgo.si/ | Slovenian network "SloN" | Internet consultant From Dusan.Matic na guest.arnes.si Wed Feb 26 11:37:19 1997 From: Dusan.Matic na guest.arnes.si (Du{an Mati~) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:21:01 2004 Subject: POJDITE K NOTARJU!!! References: Message-ID: Hi, > Danes sem govoril z nasim notarjem. > Podpisali niso se trije in sicer: > > Dusan Matic > Edi Suc > Jure Koren > Ta teden nikakor ne morem prit v Lju ...ful mam mal casa zaradi enih izpitov naslednji teden... 100% bom prisel pred sestankom ... vsaj kaksen dan prej .. indy From gody na elgo.si Thu Feb 13 23:29:10 1997 From: gody na elgo.si (Matjaz Godec) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:21:15 2004 Subject: Lyx in slovenske crke References: <330219C0.5141746A@siol.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 12 Feb 1997, Bostjan Jerko wrote: > Zdravo! > > Ze nekaj casa se ukvarjam z instalacijo Lyx-a. Uspelo mi je instalirati > tudi slovenske fonte, vendar pa imam probleme s crko "s. Ce shranim Lyx > file se shrani \xb9, kar je O.K., ce pa naredim nice LaTex file pa dobim > \(\xb9\). Sicer se file se vedno pravilno pojavi v xdvi, ampak javlja > napako. > Sem pravkar instaliral LyX in imam iste probleme. Ce vkljucim T1 encoding v .lyxrc datoteki napake izginejo, ampak tudi "s_ji. A ima kdo resitev ? gody ___________________________________________________________________________ Matjaz Godec | "ELGO" Maribor d.o.o. | Electronics matjaz.godec@elgo.si | Ul. Josipa Priola 35 | Telecommunications tel/fax:+ 386 62 24 460 | SI 2ooo Maribor, Slovenija | CALDERA-LINUX http://www.elgo.si/ | Slovenian network "SloN" | Internet consultant From snowman na hal9000.medinet.si Wed Feb 26 22:46:21 1997 From: snowman na hal9000.medinet.si (Alen Salamun) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:21:23 2004 Subject: Netcape MiRoR References: <> Message-ID: Hi! Kaj se Netscape sploh kje v .si mirrorira???? Kaj to to so neki KVAZI zastopniki za netscape, ki se FTP sajta nimajo z njim???? KISS ki naj bi ga mel pa je tudi PRAZEN... LP, Alen | Alen Salamun | EMAIL: snowman@hal9000.medinet.si | | -= LiNUX User = | WWW: http://www.medinet.si | | -= The only REAL OS =- | From benjamin.zeleznik na siol.net Tue Feb 18 18:25:36 1997 From: benjamin.zeleznik na siol.net (Benjamin Zeleznik) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:21:35 2004 Subject: [ LUGOS ] Skripte?! References: <> Message-ID: <01bc1dc0$c14e6d00$LocalHost@default> Hojla! Se eno vprasanje novopecenega linuxovca : Imam aplikacijo, ki pise v doloceno datoteko (recimo ji "tabela"). V tej isti aplikaciji imam program za poizvedbe (query), s katerim izvlecem iz "tabele" podatke, ki me zanimajo (vedno ista polja) in jih shranim v drugo datoteko. Sedaj pa zares vprasanje: ali se da z "dokaj preprostim" shell programiranjem doseci, da bi se ta postopek sam izvajal, recimo, vsako minuto, oziroma, se bolje, da bi se ta programcek sprozil sam ob vsaki spremembi datoteke "tabela"? Hvala za odgovore! :) Beno From jack na ro.zrsss.si Fri Feb 14 13:38:46 1997 From: jack na ro.zrsss.si (Jaka Mele) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:21:38 2004 Subject: LINUX CD - ZBIRAM NAROCILA References: <> Message-ID: Zivjo Tale CD izgleda zelo cool, je prakticno zastonj, ce pa jih narocimo skupaj se vsak posebej znebi stroska postnine (okoli 10 $)... Racunam, da bi ce jih narocimo vsaj 10-20, strosek na enega prisel 500-700 sit. vec informacij spodaj --------- Linux Systems Labs, has done it again! We are pleased to offer an updated version of our TRI-LINUX CD which contains: --> Redhat 4.1 (Intel) --> Slackware 3.1 --> Debian 1.2.5 Pricing: $2.98(US) Availability: Now Shipping Please visit our web site at http://www.lsl.com for complete ordering information. For a independant review of TRI-LINUX and the Linux Man pages book see http://spoon.base.org Some of the changes that since our last release include: * Over 50 Security patches, updates and bug fixes to the Slackware 3.1cd since our last release. * Over 55 updated Debian packages since our previous version of Debian * 10 updated RPMs since the official Redhat 4.1 was released. --------------------------- Ce bi narocil CD tudi ti, mi pisi direktno na jack@ro.zrsss.si in NE NA LISTO! Rabim vase ime/priimek, email in telefon. bye, Jack Jaka Mele | jaka.mele@arnes.si | Those who do not understand Unix ARNES, Jamova 39 | Tel: +386 61 125-1515 | are condemned to reinvent it, SI-1000 Ljubljana | Fax: +386 61 125-5454 | poorly. Member of Linux User Group Of Slovenia http://www.zrsss.si/~lugos/ From miha.tomsic na fmf.uni-lj.si Fri Feb 14 14:22:26 1997 From: miha.tomsic na fmf.uni-lj.si (Miha Tomsic Mike) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:22:24 2004 Subject: Gimp (prej: Wabi) References: <> Message-ID: <> Hojla! On Tue, 11 Feb 1997, Jaka Mele wrote: > Jaz sem bil predvsem razocaran, ker ne dela photoshop.:| Kaj ti bo PS, ce imamo pa Gimp? BTW: a je nova uradna verzija ze zunaj? Bye, Mike... - Miha Tomsic Mike -- C. na postajo 55 -- 1351 Brezovica pri Lj. -- SLOVENIA - - home-made -- electronics -- music -- industrial -- physics -- net -- linux - - phylosophy -- poetry -- arts ---- Lower Parts of Abdomen ---- Josef Banale - From jack na ro.zrsss.si Fri Feb 14 14:28:19 1997 From: jack na ro.zrsss.si (Jaka Mele) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:22:51 2004 Subject: Gimp (prej: Wabi) References: Message-ID: On Fri, 14 Feb 1997, Miha Tomsic Mike wrote: > > Jaz sem bil predvsem razocaran, ker ne dela photoshop.:| > Kaj ti bo PS, ce imamo pa Gimp? > BTW: a je nova uradna verzija ze zunaj? Ni je, in vse je zamrlo. Nihce niti ne govori o novih verzijah.. zato ps :) bye, Jack Jaka Mele | jaka.mele@arnes.si | Those who do not understand Unix ARNES, Jamova 39 | Tel: +386 61 125-1515 | are condemned to reinvent it, SI-1000 Ljubljana | Fax: +386 61 125-5454 | poorly. Member of Linux User Group Of Slovenia http://www.zrsss.si/~lugos/ From miha.tomsic na fmf.uni-lj.si Fri Feb 14 15:19:18 1997 From: miha.tomsic na fmf.uni-lj.si (Miha Tomsic Mike) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:23:18 2004 Subject: LUGOS References: <> Message-ID: <> Hojla! A bi se kdo prijavil svoje podatke (ime, priimek, stalno prebivalisce, datum rojstva in drzavljanstvo, za to zadnje nisem preprican, a ga je res treba...), za registracijo drustva. Vsi ki boste sli overovit svoje podpise boste placali cca 500Sit, kar je polovica polletne clanarine. S tem pa boste imeli za nagrado ze placano clanarino za pol leta. Zaenkrat imam podatke Jake Meleta, Dragana Nedeljkovica, Matjaza Permeta. Jure Koren mi mora sporociti se datum rojstva. Tukaj nas je pet. Mora nas biti deset (par zelez je ze v ognju). Zagrebte se, se splaca... Kje so odborniki in blagajnik? A ste sploh na listi? A bo treba izvolit nove organe al kaj? Bye, Mike... - Miha Tomsic Mike -- C. na postajo 55 -- 1351 Brezovica pri Lj. -- SLOVENIA - - home-made -- electronics -- music -- industrial -- physics -- net -- linux - - phylosophy -- poetry -- arts ---- Lower Parts of Abdomen ---- Josef Banale - From snowman na hal9000.medinet.si Fri Feb 14 21:21:59 1997 From: snowman na hal9000.medinet.si (Alen Salamun) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:23:43 2004 Subject: Lyx in slovenske crke References: Message-ID: On Thu, 13 Feb 1997, Matjaz Godec wrote: > Sem pravkar instaliral LyX in imam iste probleme. Ce vkljucim T1 encoding > v .lyxrc datoteki napake izginejo, ampak tudi "s_ji. A ima kdo resitev ? Helo! Jaz nimam nobenih zgoraj navedenih problemov..Sem lepo posnel naredil nice latex in prekompilal v dvi brez napak vse OK...Mam 0.11.8 LyX... To mi je produciral v .tex TO JE TEST \v{S}\v{S}\v{S}\v{S}\v{s}\v{s}\v{s}\v{s}!!! LP, Alen | Alen Salamun | EMAIL: snowman@hal9000.medinet.si | | -= LiNUX User = | WWW: http://www.medinet.si | | -= The only REAL OS =- | From snowman na hal9000.medinet.si Fri Feb 14 21:16:52 1997 From: snowman na hal9000.medinet.si (Alen Salamun) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:24:10 2004 Subject: LUGOS References: Message-ID: On Fri, 14 Feb 1997, Miha Tomsic Mike wrote: > A bi se kdo prijavil svoje podatke (ime, priimek, stalno > prebivalisce, datum rojstva in drzavljanstvo, za to zadnje nisem > preprican, a ga je res treba...), za registracijo drustva. Vsi ki boste > sli overovit svoje podpise boste placali cca 500Sit, kar je polovica > polletne clanarine. S tem pa boste imeli za nagrado ze placano clanarino > za pol leta. Bi se z veseljem, pa bi moral pol se v LJ hodit...Ali je mozno tudi iz MB-ja urediti zadevo??? > Kje so odborniki in blagajnik? A ste sploh na listi? A bo treba izvolit > nove organe al kaj? Hmmm....Jaz pa mislim da bi bilo pametno eno "cago" naredit pa bi se tam dogovorili..Bi blo cool...:) LP, Alen P.S: Je ze kdo razmisljal o kakem glasilu drustva???? Mam polno idej za clanke:) | Alen Salamun | EMAIL: snowman@hal9000.medinet.si | | -= LiNUX User = | WWW: http://www.medinet.si | | -= The only REAL OS =- | From gody na elgo.si Fri Feb 14 22:08:07 1997 From: gody na elgo.si (Matjaz Godec) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:24:36 2004 Subject: LUGOS References: Message-ID: On Fri, 14 Feb 1997, Alen Salamun wrote: > > P.S: Je ze kdo razmisljal o kakem glasilu drustva???? Mam polno idej za > clanke:) Hej Alen ! Kaj cakas, napisi kaj, saj imamo v Sloveniji 3 racunalniske revije in glede na pokritost sta vsaj se dve, v katerih jim Linux/Unix piscev kronicno primankuje. gody ___________________________________________________________________________ Matjaz Godec | "ELGO" Maribor d.o.o. | Electronics matjaz.godec@elgo.si | Ul. Josipa Priola 35 | Telecommunications tel/fax:+ 386 62 24 460 | SI 2ooo Maribor, Slovenija | CALDERA-LINUX http://www.elgo.si/ | Slovenian network "SloN" | Internet consultant From gody na elgo.si Fri Feb 14 22:09:34 1997 From: gody na elgo.si (Matjaz Godec) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:25:03 2004 Subject: Lyx in slovenske crke References: Message-ID: On Fri, 14 Feb 1997, Alen Salamun wrote: > On Thu, 13 Feb 1997, Matjaz Godec wrote: > > Jaz nimam nobenih zgoraj navedenih problemov..Sem lepo posnel naredil nice > latex in prekompilal v dvi brez napak vse OK...Mam 0.11.8 LyX... > > To mi je produciral v .tex > > TO JE TEST \v{S}\v{S}\v{S}\v{S}\v{s}\v{s}\v{s}\v{s}!!! > Kako je s stabilnostjo 0.11.8 ? A bi se ti dalo E-mailat .lyxrc nastavitve in mogoce se kaksno spremno besedo. Tale lyx namrec izgleda res kot prava stvar. gody ___________________________________________________________________________ Matjaz Godec | "ELGO" Maribor d.o.o. | Electronics matjaz.godec@elgo.si | Ul. Josipa Priola 35 | Telecommunications tel/fax:+ 386 62 24 460 | SI 2ooo Maribor, Slovenija | CALDERA-LINUX http://www.elgo.si/ | Slovenian network "SloN" | Internet consultant From miha.tomsic na fmf.uni-lj.si Sat Feb 15 10:48:11 1997 From: miha.tomsic na fmf.uni-lj.si (Miha Tomsic Mike) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:25:31 2004 Subject: Lista References: <> Message-ID: <> Hojla! Vceraj sem z mailing liste dobil dve podvojeni sporocili. A je kaj narobe z Majordomom? Bye, Mike... - Miha Tomsic Mike -- C. na postajo 55 -- 1351 Brezovica pri Lj. -- SLOVENIA - - home-made -- electronics -- music -- industrial -- physics -- net -- linux - - phylosophy -- poetry -- arts ---- Lower Parts of Abdomen ---- Josef Banale - From janez.dovc na guest.arnes.si Fri Feb 14 14:43:17 1997 From: janez.dovc na guest.arnes.si (Janez) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:25:57 2004 Subject: [ LUGOS ] Linux-Mandrake 5.3 released References: <> Message-ID: <00be01bc1a7d$0a3dfcc0$5f02f9c2@johan> Jst ga ravnokar - vec na privat mail. LP Janez -----Original Message----- From: Matej Mihelic To: lugos-list@lugos.si Date: 12. februar 1999 9:35 Subject: [ LUGOS ] Linux-Mandrake 5.3 released >Glede na to, da nimam pogojev za tako velik DL, bi povprašal ali >kdorkoli od vas planira potegniti dol ISO sliko? > From jack na ro.zrsss.si Sat Feb 15 12:14:43 1997 From: jack na ro.zrsss.si (Jaka Mele) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:25:58 2004 Subject: LUGOS References: Message-ID: On Fri, 14 Feb 1997, Alen Salamun wrote: > > Kje so odborniki in blagajnik? A ste sploh na listi? A bo treba izvolit > > nove organe al kaj? > Hmmm....Jaz pa mislim da bi bilo pametno eno "cago" naredit pa bi se tam > dogovorili..Bi blo cool...:) Ja, mogoce bi res ze bil cajt. > P.S: Je ze kdo razmisljal o kakem glasilu drustva???? Mam polno idej za > clanke:) > Hmm. Mislis da rabimo glasilo? Jaz poleg tele mailing lsite in WWW strani kamor bi lahko dajali vse clanke ne vidim potrebe po tem. Pac pa bi bilo fino, ce bi v slo. rac. revije kaj pisali o linuxu. Jaz in gody to nekako ze pocneva v win.ini... Ce se kdo pocuti pisateljsko navdahnjen in ima kaj za napisat naj NAPISE, potem pa lahko kjerkoli to objavi. Ce ne bodo drugje nikjer hoteli (malo verjetno), sem preprican da se bo v Win.Ini nasel plac... Ce bi pa se v monitor al pa moj mikro kdo kaj napisal bi bilo pa sploh fino, tako da pokrijemo celo rac. sfero, ne samo tisto ,ki bere eno revijo. bye, Jack Jaka Mele | jaka.mele@arnes.si | Those who do not understand Unix ARNES, Jamova 39 | Tel: +386 61 125-1515 | are condemned to reinvent it, SI-1000 Ljubljana | Fax: +386 61 125-5454 | poorly. Member of Linux User Group Of Slovenia http://www.zrsss.si/~lugos/ From jack na ro.zrsss.si Sat Feb 15 12:20:01 1997 From: jack na ro.zrsss.si (Jaka Mele) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:26:26 2004 Subject: Lista References: Message-ID: On Sat, 15 Feb 1997, Miha Tomsic Mike wrote: > Vceraj sem z mailing liste dobil dve podvojeni sporocili. A je kaj narobe > z Majordomom? > Ne da bi vedel. Si preprican da posiljatelj ni poslal na listo in cc se tebi direkt? bye, Jack Jaka Mele | jaka.mele@arnes.si | Those who do not understand Unix ARNES, Jamova 39 | Tel: +386 61 125-1515 | are condemned to reinvent it, SI-1000 Ljubljana | Fax: +386 61 125-5454 | poorly. Member of Linux User Group Of Slovenia http://www.zrsss.si/~lugos/ From casar na uni-mb.si Mon Feb 3 12:34:02 1997 From: casar na uni-mb.si (Ales Casar) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:26:49 2004 Subject: A komu dela to... References: <199702030658.HAA30800@ro.zrsss.si> Message-ID: On Mon, 3 Feb 1997, Zlatko Rek wrote: > Aladdin Ghostscript 4.03 (1996-9-23) > Copyright (C) 1996 Aladdin Enterprises, Menlo Park, CA. All rights reserved. Jaz uporabljam Aladdin Ghostscript 4.00 (1996-6-28) Copyright (C) 1996 Aladdin Enterprises, Menlo Park, CA. All rights reserved. Izpise se tudi to: Input formats: PostScript PostScriptLevel1 PostScriptLevel2 PDF pa vseeno ne deluje obdelava vseh PDF dokumentov. Ne direktno z gs ne preko AcroRead-a. Je tako velika razlika med verzijama 4.00 in 4.03? Ales -- Ales Casar | InterNet: Casar@uni-mb.si, A.Casar@ieee.org, Faculty of EE & CS | A.Casar@s-gms.ms.edus.si University of Maribor | DECnet: RCUM::ALES SLOVENIA | WWW: http://www.el.feri.uni-mb.si/~ales/ From rek na leila.ijs.si Mon Feb 3 13:26:23 1997 From: rek na leila.ijs.si (Zlatko Rek) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:27:19 2004 Subject: A komu dela to... References: Message-ID: <199702031226.NAA02056@ro.zrsss.si> > Aladdin Ghostscript 4.03 (1996-9-23) > Copyright (C) 1996 Aladdin Enterprises, Menlo Park, CA. All rights reserved. > > Jaz uporabljam > > Aladdin Ghostscript 4.00 (1996-6-28) > Copyright (C) 1996 Aladdin Enterprises, Menlo Park, CA. All rights reserved. > > Izpise se tudi to: > > Input formats: PostScript PostScriptLevel1 PostScriptLevel2 PDF > > pa vseeno ne deluje obdelava vseh PDF dokumentov. Ne direktno z gs ne > preko AcroRead-a. Je tako velika razlika med verzijama 4.00 in 4.03? Ne vem, ker gs se nisem uporabljal za PDF input format. Mogoce bi bilo potrebno pogledati v ChangeLog file. Version 4.03 (9/23/96) ============ This was an emergency re-release of 4.02 to fix the stdin redirection problem. It has essentially no other changes. Known problems: - ps2pdf sometimes produces output with missing links. - ps2pdf can produce files with incorrect word spacing. (k/offis/page12.*) - ps2pdf can produce files where text disappears after a figure, or where a figure overlays text. (k/offis/page10.*) - pdf2ps can produce output where what should be a small figure overlays the text. (k/pdf/ppi_10_d.*) - Setting HWSize by itself with setpagedevice has no effect. - When shrinking oversize halftone cells, the current algorithm, which progressively halves the size, can produce non-monotonic behavior; GS should either use a monotonic algorithm or give a limitcheck. (k/jdscreen.ps) - In Type 1 fonts, almost-vertical lines that straddle a stem edge produce uneven output. Also, at some resolutions, stem hints produce anomalous or clipped output, or even missing lines. (k/pdf/pdfspec.pdf at 96 dpi) - If a character in a Type 3 font is defined by executing 'show' type commands, charpath does the wrong thing (doesn't pick up the paths created by the inner show). - Banded high-level images are disabled, because there is no way yet to pass the color rendering information through the band list. (USE_HL_IMAGES in gxclimag.c) - The computations for halftone cells don't work for non-square pixels. (gshtscr.c) - Some tracing output was incorrect or missing. (gxdither.c) - Resized objects in the C heap had incorrect bookkeeping information (bug introduced in 3.68). (gsmemory.c) - Image pixels that fell exactly on device half-pixel boundaries could get discarded. (gximage0.c) - The bounding box device didn't set a variable properly and didn't implement end_image, leading to invalid memory accesses. (gdevbbox.c) - Fonts with BuildChar routines written in C didn't work properly with kshow or xyshow. (gschar.c) Adds some additional tracing output for Patterns. (gxpcmap.c) Adds tracing output for freeing malloc'ed blocks at the end of execution. (gsmemory.c) Adds a gs_dashpath procedure that expands dashes in the same way that gs_flattenpath expands curves. (gspath.h, gspath1.c) Lep pozdrav. Zlatko ______________________________________________________________________________ Dr. Zlatko Rek | Phone:+386 61 177 3746 Jozef Stefan Institute | +386 61 177 3900 National Supercomputing Centre | Fax: +386 61 219 385 Jamova 39, P.O.BOX 300 | E-mail:zlatko.rek@nsc.ijs.si SI-1001 Ljubljana, SLOVENIA | http://www2.ijs.si/~rek/ ______________________________________________________________________________ From cic na latefibm1.fs.uni-lj.si Sat Feb 15 12:25:00 1997 From: cic na latefibm1.fs.uni-lj.si (Timotej Ecimovic - Cic) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:27:26 2004 Subject: LUGOS References: Message-ID: > > > P.S: Je ze kdo razmisljal o kakem glasilu drustva???? Mam polno idej za > > clanke:) > > > > Hmm. Mislis da rabimo glasilo? Jaz poleg tele mailing lsite in WWW strani > kamor bi lahko dajali vse clanke ne vidim potrebe po tem. Pac pa bi bilo > fino, ce bi v slo. rac. revije kaj pisali o linuxu. Jaz in gody to nekako > ze pocneva v win.ini... Ce se kdo pocuti pisateljsko navdahnjen in ima kaj > za napisat naj NAPISE, potem pa lahko kjerkoli to objavi. Ce ne bodo > drugje nikjer hoteli (malo verjetno), sem preprican da se bo v Win.Ini > nasel plac... Ce bi pa se v monitor al pa moj mikro kdo kaj napisal bi > bilo pa sploh fino, tako da pokrijemo celo rac. sfero, ne samo tisto ,ki > bere eno revijo. > Jaz se ze nekaj casa spravljam za v Monitor napisati en clanek na temo Linuxa. Za zacetek tako na splosno o Linuxu (v odgovor na tisti debakel o Windowsih in OS/2, ki so mu dali naslov Operacijski Sistemi), potem pa, ce bo proradilo, kar redno serijo clankov, povezanih z Linuxom. Samo spraviti se je tezko.. :( Trenutno se sicer bavim s tisto IPC serijo, ampak casa mam cez in cez dovolj za se kaksen clanek zraven... A se kdo za Monitor ze loteva cesa takega? Cic From uros.platise na fov.uni-mb.si Tue Feb 4 01:01:32 1997 From: uros.platise na fov.uni-mb.si (Uros Platise) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:27:49 2004 Subject: A komu dela to... References: <199702030658.HAA30800@ro.zrsss.si> Message-ID: <> Zlatko Rek wrote: > P.S.: To je Debian paket gs-aladdin.4.03-7! Sem ze instaliral. Najbolj zanimiva je ugotovitev, da s pomocjo gs-ja lahko printam, gledam pdf filete ampak PS output-a od Acrobat Readerja pa se vedno ne prebavi..heh.. LP uros From gody na elgo.si Sat Feb 15 12:42:18 1997 From: gody na elgo.si (Matjaz Godec) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:27:57 2004 Subject: Lista References: Message-ID: On Sat, 15 Feb 1997, Miha Tomsic Mike wrote: > Hojla! > > Vceraj sem z mailing liste dobil dve podvojeni sporocili. A je kaj narobe > z Majordomom? > Verjetno je zadeva enaka s temle sporocilom :)) Jaz imam navado, da posljem odgovor tako direktno na naslov, kot tudi na listo. Glede na izkusnje z nekaterimi bolj obremenjenimi listami se je to izkazalo za dobro, saj tako dobi posiljatelj odgovor takoj, na listi pa se vcasih pojavi sele cez nekaj casa (ponekod tudi do teden dni). Pa brez zamere gody ___________________________________________________________________________ Matjaz Godec | "ELGO" Maribor d.o.o. | Electronics matjaz.godec@elgo.si | Ul. Josipa Priola 35 | Telecommunications tel/fax:+ 386 62 24 460 | SI 2ooo Maribor, Slovenija | CALDERA-LINUX http://www.elgo.si/ | Slovenian network "SloN" | Internet consultant From cic na latefibm1.fs.uni-lj.si Tue Feb 4 13:50:37 1997 From: cic na latefibm1.fs.uni-lj.si (Timotej Ecimovic) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:28:22 2004 Subject: Kermit... References: <> Message-ID: <199702041250.NAA16507@latefibm1.fs.uni-lj.si> Hiya! A ma kdo kaksen star preizkusen kermit? Rabim za povezavo s HP48SX! Enega sem nasel na kermit.columbia.edu in sicer cku192.slackware-i386.tgz paket. Ampak je cuden nikakor ne dela. Ce nardim: preden laufam kermita, vidim kako HP poblinkne. Potem zalaufam kermita, ne uspem narediti nicesar in ko grem ven se echo kuku > /dev/ttyS1 ne dela vec, kot da bi kermit zadzemal device in konec.... Jaz bi raje kaksen starejsi bolj glupi kermit. Cic From jack na ro.zrsss.si Sat Feb 15 12:59:10 1997 From: jack na ro.zrsss.si (Jaka Mele) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:28:30 2004 Subject: LUGOS References: Message-ID: On Sat, 15 Feb 1997, Timotej Ecimovic - Cic wrote: > > > > > P.S: Je ze kdo razmisljal o kakem glasilu drustva???? Mam polno idej za > > > clanke:) > > Hmm. Mislis da rabimo glasilo? Jaz poleg tele mailing lsite in WWW strani > > kamor bi lahko dajali vse clanke ne vidim potrebe po tem. Pac pa bi bilo > > fino, ce bi v slo. rac. revije kaj pisali o linuxu. Jaz in gody to nekako > > ze pocneva v win.ini... Ce se kdo pocuti pisateljsko navdahnjen in ima kaj > > za napisat naj NAPISE, potem pa lahko kjerkoli to objavi. Ce ne bodo > > drugje nikjer hoteli (malo verjetno), sem preprican da se bo v Win.Ini > > nasel plac... Ce bi pa se v monitor al pa moj mikro kdo kaj napisal bi > > bilo pa sploh fino, tako da pokrijemo celo rac. sfero, ne samo tisto ,ki > > bere eno revijo. > Jaz se ze nekaj casa spravljam za v Monitor napisati en clanek > na temo Linuxa. Za zacetek tako na splosno o Linuxu (v odgovor na > tisti debakel o Windowsih in OS/2, ki so mu dali naslov Operacijski > Sistemi), potem pa, ce bo proradilo, kar redno serijo clankov, > povezanih z Linuxom. Samo spraviti se je tezko.. :( > Trenutno se sicer bavim s tisto IPC serijo, ampak casa mam cez in cez dovolj > za se kaksen clanek zraven... > A se kdo za Monitor ze loteva cesa takega? > Fino.. Jaz trenutno ustvarjam dva velika clanka in sicer -linux distribucije (redhat, debian in slackware) -linux office paketi (applixware, cios in staroffice -zadnja beta). to za win.ini... pogresam pa in imam v planu napisat, samo nimam cajta v naslednjih nekaj mesecih (in bi bil zadovoljen ci bi kdo drug to naredil) clanek o linux 2.0 nasploh - kaj je sprememnb, kaj je boljse in oh in sploh, ter kaksno primerjavo o dosemu in opendosu. Sicer pa bo clanek o WABIju objavljen v naslednjim win.iniju. p.s. pred casom sem se pogovarjal z urednikom mojega mikra pa je rekel da bi bili zainteresirani za kaksne linux clanke, tako da , go ahead! bye, Jack Jaka Mele | jaka.mele@arnes.si | Those who do not understand Unix ARNES, Jamova 39 | Tel: +386 61 125-1515 | are condemned to reinvent it, SI-1000 Ljubljana | Fax: +386 61 125-5454 | poorly. Member of Linux User Group Of Slovenia http://www.zrsss.si/~lugos/ From jack na ro.zrsss.si Tue Feb 4 14:44:40 1997 From: jack na ro.zrsss.si (Jaka Mele) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:28:54 2004 Subject: Linux Newsletter Volume 3 (fwd) References: <> Message-ID: Linux Newsletter: Issue #3 Date: 01/30/97 Table of contents: -Linux Trademark Dispute Update, the rest of the story -BYTE Magazine, January Article -Linus at Disneyland -Report USENIX/UseLinux Show, Anaheim, Jan 6-10, 1997 GREAT SHOW!!!!! -Get a video tape of UseLinux sessions, including Linus speaking on the "Future of the Linux Kernel" -Linus version 2.0, it's a girl! -Linux, InfoWorld Magazine's product (operating system) of the year! -Red Hat Linux version 4.1 released -New Applixware 4.3 announced, Sale & Free upgrade on existing version -Caldera Open Linux Base shipping -Uniforum Show, San Francisco, March 10-14, 1997 also: Volunteers needed -SoftBank Comdex participation Spring and Fall, Linux Vendors needed. -Wearable Computing, neat Linux Application -DejaNews link, neat Linux site -This month's special offers at the LinuxMall -How to subscribe/unsubscribe to this newsletter === This is Issue #3 of the Linux newsletter. It has been fun writing it for you. We have gotten back a lot of new subscriptions in the last month. Several hundred in fact. I have also gotten a lot of positive and encouraging feedback. I very much enjoy serving the Linux Community, and the FREEDOM of choice that Linux represents. I hope to continue to live up to your expectations. -- Mark Hang on, here we go! === Linux Trademark Dispute Update, the rest of the story. As many of you know, a person by the name of William R. Della Croce, Jr. claims to own the Linux Trademark. We have made progress on this front and the petition for cancellation has been filed with the Trademark office. Della Croce followed this claim with a letter to us demanding 10% of the gross revenues of WGS, and also sent the same letter to other Linux companies. Please see http://www.linuxmall.com/announce.html for the most extensive collection of information to date on this issue. Included is more information than has ever been published anywhere else. The issue is still not completely resolved, but is now in hands of the law, which will take time. We hope that in the meantime, Della Croce chooses to voluntarily release the trademark before we get to court. If it is found by the court that Della Croce falsely claimed Linux, the court will likely choose to press criminal charges. In any case, if Della Croce would voluntarily turn over the trademark it could save everyone a lot of money, time and grief. === BYTE Magazine, January Article For those of you who did not see it, BYTE magazine had a GREAT article about Linux in the January, 1997 issue! It was very positive. === Report USENIX/UseLinux Show, Anaheim, Jan 6-10, 1997 GREAT SHOW!!!!! As many of you already know the UseLinux show just occurred a couple of weeks ago at Anaheim California, just a few blocks from Disneyland. My wife Virginia and I packed our stuff into the trusty van, and drove out from our home town of Aurora Colorado to take part in this show. On a straight through drive, we made a brief stop in Las Vegas for a buffet at the Rio, "Voted the best in Las Vegas". Then miles down the road the California Agricultural Department made us "eat or throw away" our entire week's stock of "Organically Raised" mandarin oranges before they let us pass. We couldn't bear wasting them, and they tasted good, but it *was* a bit much, eating those 40 oranges all at once, especially on top of a buffet less than an hour earlier. A few hours later we arrived at LA, and caught our first sleep. We were anticipating visiting the UCLA Linux users group along with Jon "maddog" Hall, and Linus Torvalds, on Sunday but had forgotten to take our directions to get there. I kept trying to call my contact for information (I learned the message on the answering machine by heart). We finally stopped at an electronics superstore, and used WebTV to locate some references to the user group, but got very little further info. I called the president according to the web page I located. He answered, but hadn't been connected with the group for some time. As soon as he heard that Linus was going to be there, he immediately did an Alta Vista Search for the keywords: UCLA Linux user group, found where the meeting was, and then ran out to meet Linus. I think he would looked the info up for me anyway, but to see Linus.... He still had time to get to the meeting from where he was, but Virginia & I unfortunately did not, as we were too far away. I'll be smarter next time as to how to find what I want on the 'net. Glad someone profited from it though! Monday while in Anaheim, Virginia and I had the opportunity to treat Linus Torvalds to a day at Disneyland. A picture was taken which we will be putting on our Web site shortly if anyone would care to check it out. There is a link to it from http://www.linuxmall.com/announce.html Indiana Jones was the mutually preferred ride... Did you know that each of those cars in this ride costs over $600,000 between steel, hydraulics, motors & computerization? Oh, and about the show, UseLinux (January 6-10, 1997) was great. The attendance combined with USENIX was 1444, and I was told that about 25% came specifically because of the Linux presence. UseLinux was billed as the Linux Applications Development and Deployment Conference. It featured developers and business tracks, tutorials, and invited talks. There were also presentations and case studies where we found out how things really work from speakers with real-life experience. There was also a trade show with vendor booths. UseLinux was sponsored by Linux International and the USENIX Association. For more information, visit the USENIX Web site: http://www.usenix.org I was on the organizing committee, and had been assigned 2 presentations to do; in addition, Virginia and I staffed the WGS booth in the vendor area. It was neat to actually see various people a number of times, and get to know quite a few. I renewed friendships with people I had met before or knew only by E-mail, and made some new ones as well. Some of the names you would probably recognize so I'll mention a few here. This is not intended to be an inclusive, or for that matter an organized list, just off the top of my head: Linus Torvalds, Alan Cox, John "maddog" Hall, Don Rosenberg, Michael K Johnson, Bob Young, Joel Goldberger, Erik Troan, Greg Wettstein, Fred Ven Kempen, Bruce Perens, Phil Hughes, Miguel de Icaza, Alessandro Rubini, Victor Yodaiken, Ted Tso, Heiko Eissfeldt, Bryan Sparks, Jim Thompson, the PC TV people Tom Schauer, Giles Bateman and many more. It is good to know that all the players in the Linux community are so friendly and helpful toward each other. Virginia specifically wanted me to comment on how exciting it was to meet more customers than I can list by name. After knowing them only as a voice on the phone, or someone at a remote keyboard, meeting them was a special treat. We heartily thank our faithful and loyal customers who make this newsletter, and everything we accomplish, possible. Without you we are nothing. We especially appreciate the customers that went about the show saying nice things about us to others, and even sometimes butting in, and making a sale for us at our booth. It was great. The highlight of the show for me was when Linus Torvalds' session "The future of the Linux Kernel" started. Here is how it went. Linus was assigned to talk in a fairly large room that had served other Linux presentations well. Before Linus even started the room was stuffed, and a line formed down the hall. The USENIX organizers rushed over, and just as Linus started his presentation asked him to move to the BIG room. Well, we filled it too. Linus had better attendance than the keynote by James Gosling, of Java fame! This with no promotion for his session beyond it's listing in the show guide. This session, along with several others is available on video tape. See below for more info on that. Virginia told me that the vendor area turned into a graveyard during Linus' session... vendors were asking "Where did everyone go?". There were about 8 Linux related vendors there, and about 70 vendors of other Unix related items. Some had Linux portations, or drivers, and others did not. Apparently many of the non-Linux vendors went home convinced that they needed to support this "Linux Stuff" yesterday! All the Linux sessions were pretty well attended; even the Linux sessions on Friday, after the rest of the show had pretty much shut down, had good attendance. A lot of other neat things happened at this show, and for any who did not make it there, I am sorry you could not come. It was a major success, and quite an experience. After the show, Virginia and I drove back to Colorado again. I think that the ski resorts should pay me to drive back and forth through the mountains.... EVERY time I go through there on a trip, snow hits either going one way or the other. This is true even in the summer! It was a really big snow this time coming back. The snow just kept getting deeper and the freeway got worse & worse. The road really slick & piled up by the time we got to Glenwood Springs. So, we stopped at Yampah Hot springs and visited the natural vapor caves for some relaxation. I had never been there before. I would suggest anyone traveling through on I-70 check it out. Yampah vapor caves claim to be the ONLY natural vapor caves in North America... a fabulous sauna... ==== UseLinux video tape, Future of the Linux Kernel If you would like to get a video tape of some of the UseLinux sessions, including Linus speaking on the "Future of the Linux Kernel" you can contact the http://www.linuxmall.com and order item# 00128. I had originally only intended on recording these sessions for my own use.... but so many people seeing me with a camera stopped me to ask for a copy of the tape... I felt like I had to say yes. I called to ask about duplication charges, and calculated all the other related costs in making this tape generally available. The result is a single 6 hour video tape (Recorded in Extended Play mode) for $29 plus shipping & handling. We are waiting to see how many orders we get before ordering the first batch of duplicates, so place your order, be patient and we will ship it out to you. This tape is in North American VHS format, and although it was taped with a top notch Sony video camera with image stabalizing technology, the nut behind the viewfinder didn't do the greatest job of holding it still. He forgot to bring a tripod, and sometimes things are a bit shaky. A few of the questions asked by the audience are hard to hear... but the informational content is super, and also (amazingly) relatively timeless. All presenters that appear on the tape will be sent a free copy upon request. What is on the tape: - Short intro by Virginia Lane, VP WGS - Linus Torvalds, The Future of the Linux Kernel 1.5 hours - Mark Bolzern, Linux: What it is, and Why it is significant .5 hours - Don Rosenberg, Linux and distribution channels: 1 hour Ways to enter the Commercial market - Jon "maddog" Hall, Using Linux in your business: 1.5 hours a Business Justification - Jon "maddog" Hall, Bob Young The Linux Market: 1.5 hours Who, What, Where, When and Why In the last session, Bob Young goes through his calculations of the size of the Linux market, and arrives at figures to support as many as up to Six Million users already. Figures supplied independently by some of the users of FreeBSD concur, as do my own calculations, so this number is arrived at by several completely independent calculations using different evidence. One of the things that freaked me out a bit at UseLinux was the number of people running around asking when there was going to be a port of CDE (Common Desktop Environment) when in fact WGS has been promoting and shipping X-Inside's CDE for Linux and FreeBSD for several months now. It has been announced on COLA, I emailed announcements to everyone I knew to send them to, and here I was standing in my booth handing out literature about it, I had literature set on the vendor tables outside... and people were still asking the question. Even so, we sold only a few copies of CDE there. But is CDE any good? So far every user I have installed CDE for, does NOT want to give it up. The task bar is great, as is the calendar, and some of the other features. You can see it at http://www.linuxmall.com === Linus Version 2.0 ... It's a girl Born December 5, 1996 at 6:22 AM in Helsinki Finland, Patricia Miranda Torvalds, daughter of Linus Torvalds and Tove Monni just had her naming ceremony on January 18th, 1997 at her maternal grandparents' house in Helsinki. Jon "maddog" Hall is Patricia's GodFather. If you would like to see Patricia, you can take a look at: http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/~torvalds/ Congratulations Linus & Tove! === Linux is InfoWorld's product (operating system) of the year! InfoWorld just named Red Hat 4.0 Linux, Product of the Year, and you can find the details at: http://www.infoworld.com/cgi-bin/displayNew.pl?/poy/poydos.htm If you want your very own copy of Red Hat Linux 4.0, the Linux Shopping Mall has plenty of them in stock, and at a good price too! See below under "Special Offers" for more information. This award is on a par with the Best of Comdex award bestowed on Linux Pro by BYTE Magazine about a year ago.... congratulations Red Hat, way to go Linux! === New Applixware 4.3 announced, Sale & Free upgrade on existing version Red Hat has announced that ApplixWare 4.3 will be available in March 1997, and until then the Existing ApplixWare 4.2 will sell for $199. We also have plenty of stock at the Linux Shopping mall and will be selling it at $189. It will include a free upgrade to version 4.3 as soon as it is available (price of shipping seperate). See our special offers below. Quote form the Red Hat announcement >Based on the new release of Applixware 4.3, the Applix Office Suite >for Linux will include word processor, spreadsheet, presentation >graphics, mail and HTML authoring software. The Office Suite will >sell for $199 and will include: two CDs (Applixware and Red Hat Linux >4.1), Applixware manual with documentation on Words, Spreadsheets and >Presentation Graphics, and 30 days of technical support. Applixware >4.3 will include import and export filters for most word processors >and spreadsheets, including MSWord, WordPerfect and Excel. This new >version will be available in March. > >With the release of the Applix Office Suite the Applixware family of >products for Linux will include: > > Applixware 4.3 Developer's Version $495 > Applixware 4.3 Office Suite $199 > Applixware 4.3 Student Version $79.95 > Applixware 4.3 Manual $39.95 For upgrade policy and other information check our Web Site at http://www.linuxmall.com === Red Hat Linux 4.1 released Red Hat Linux 4.1 has just been released. If you want one, then free to call us and order your "Official Red Hat Linux verson 4.1" It is Linux Shopping Mall part number# 00103, more information was not available at press time. There will be more information on our Web Site at http://www.linuxmall.com shortly. === -Caldera Open Linux Base shipping Caldera has a new Linux out called Caldera OpenLinux Base... and this is available at the Linux Shopping Mall too! This Linux is actively working towards certification for standards such as IEEE POSIX, and X/Open XPG (UNIX System Standards). It is also the official upgrade path for Lasermoon customers. This product is a complete reinstallation, even if you own Caldera Network Desktop, not an upgrade. It is Part# 00106. OpenLinux base uses a Linux 2.0.x kernel, includes NetScape navigator and more... see http://www.linuxmall.com for more information. === UNIFORUM '97 Will you be at Uniforum 97? I will be. I would like for the Linux community to have as big an impact at Uniforum as it did at USENIX where Linux/UseLinux literally stole the show, after barely making it's presence known the prior year. UseLinux at USENIX made a lot of people take Linux seriously that had not before. We have not had enough preparation this year to make the same kind of impact at UniForum, but if we have a big enough showing.... next year could be the year... think of it: UniForum/LinuxForum... Remember the issues mentioned to me by COMDEX show management in newsletter issue#2, available at http://www.linuxmall.com/announce.html Please note that SoftBank COMDEX HAS reprinted the UniForum brochure which they are mailing out continually. It specifically mentions the Linux Technology Pavilion on page 3 (the first right hand inside page). It is presented so it stands out quite well. Thank you SoftBank COMDEX.. You can register for FREE exhibits passes to UniForum and register for the conference at http://vip.uniforum97.com You can come see the latest Linux developments at the Linux Pavilion, and attend the Linux BOF. You can wander the show and tell all the vendors how important it is to them to have a Linux Port. Most vendors already have a Linux port internally, but a marketing decision is needed to make the product be released. Volunteers are needed to help Linux International staff its booth at Uniforum 97, and you can indicate interest by writing to comdex@li.org (Uniforum is a SoftBank Comdex show), and generally by your presence at the show help Linux to impact Uniforum just as UseLinux practically took over USENIX a few weeks ago. === -SoftBank Comdex participation Spring and Fall, Linux Vendors needed. If you are a vendor of anything at all related to Linux, you will want to be part of the Linux International Pavilion at both Spring and Fall Comdex shows. Contact SoftBank Comdex at http://www.comdex.com. Bill Gates will be keynoting there at the spring show. If we can get enough draw and participation maybe we can get Linus invited as a keynoter in future years! With Linux now having 6 million estimated users worldwide in addition to getting top awards from both BYTE and InfoWorld magazines now, it should only be a matter of time. The Spring Comdex is in Atlanta, Georgia, June 2-5, 1997 The Fall Comdex is in Las Vegas Nevada, November 17-21, 1997 In the meantime, maybe we can get Softbank to list a Linux Pavilion and Linux in general on their Web pages at each show (Spring & Fall COMDEX). Maybe we can even coordinate some Linux sessions for the Fall show! It all depends on the support Linux International gets from the Linux community in terms of vendor booths and attendance. So please help us help Linux to take its rightful place in the press and in the public consciousness as the #4 operating system in the world already, and climbing fast! We will be asking for volunteers for the Linux International Pavilion & Booth about a month before each show, but you can get your message indicating interest in helping at any COMDEX show to comdex@li.org at any time. Please be sure to let us know us which show you want to help with! Let your voice be heard, help out! === The MIT Wearable Computing project Here is a neat use for Linux: http://wearables.www.media.mit.edu/projects/wearables uses solely Linux for development of their machines. The reasons are obvious (fast turn around on fixes, advanced OS, small/fast, access to code, cheap, etc.). === For those who do not yet know it, one of the largest Usenet News archives on the Internet uses Linux to run their operation. hit http://www.dejanews.com/dnabout.html and http://www.dejanews.com/dnwhy.html This amazing site uses 2 Linux machines to handle nearly instant searches on over 80 million news articles making up over 120 Gigabytes of database. === -Did you know? Have you ever wanted to run Microsoft Office on Linux? WABI as ported to Linux by the Caldera people is the way that you can run Microsoft Office through version 4.3, and also many other 16-bit MS-Windows applications on your Linux system. Most MS-Win applications run faster on WABI/Linux than natively using MS-Windows/DOS on the same hardware! Do you want a Microsoft Office-like suite native to Linux? ApplixWare works VERY nicely. What is more, this is not some unknown package, This is the Number One GUI office suite for Unix systems specifically ported to run natively on Linux. Or would you like a very friendly desktop on your Linux system that even neophytes will love? CDE is the Common Desktop environment. I have yet to find a CDE user that will let me reinstall fvwm. CDE users love it. Programmers also get a raft of great tools including full Motif 1.2.5, Sunsoft's Tooltalk and more. -- To keep up the Linux promotional work, money must be spent. I order to make money we sell any and all the excellent Linux items we can find, so any time you need or want a Linux related item, check us out at the Linux Shopping Mall. Remember that your purchase not only gets you a great product at a good price, but it also supports the advancement of Linux in a very significant way. About the specials... in order to get these prices you **MUST** provide the offer code WEX020 when you contact us. A Shipping & Handling charge will also be added to the price listed so that we can send it to you in a decent box that will protect the product. Offer # WEX020 Quantities in stock are limited. Prices expire Feb 28, 1997, or when current supplies run out, and this is NOT a complete list of what we carry. Item# Offer 00128 Video from UseLinux, Linus, "Future of the Linux Kernel"....... $29 Mark, Don, Maddog, Bob and more. See above for full description. 00103 Red Hat Official Linux version 4.1 with Metro-X, $49, on sale $39 00080 Red Hat Official Linux version 4.0 with Metro-X, $49, clearance $29 v4.0-InfoWorld's Operating System of the year! Includes printed Manual 00106 Caldera Open Linux Base ... Caldera the next generation........ $59 00094 Caldera WABI, run Microsoft Windows 16bit software on Linux .. $199 00099 Caldera Internet Office Suite including Word Perfect ......... $325 00098 Caldera Word Perfect & Motif bundle .......................... $225 00078 ApplixWare GUI Office Suite Professional Edition $495, on sale $189 Includes Free upgrade to version 4.3 as soon as available. 00079 ApplixWare GUI Office Suite Education Edition $79, on sale at $69 (same as Pro Ed, fax of student id or faculty id proves that you qualify) 00021 X-Inside Accelerated X-Server/Common Desktop/Motif Bundle at $249 00025 Linux Pro 4.0 6 CD Set, normally $49 on sale at ............... $39 00024 Linux Pro Plus 4.0 Six CDs and 1600 pages Normally $99........ $69 BYTE Magazine's Best of Comdex winner 00002 Linux Encyclopedia, LDP, 1600pg, 4th edition, $49 on sale ..... $39 00062 FlagShip CD containing test drives and activatable versions of FlagShip for most variants of UNIX and also Linux. 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News Account wgsnews@wgs.com Find all your Linux needs at the All-Linux Shopping Mall http://www.LinuxMall.com mailto:info@wgs.com Tel: 303-699-7470 24hr Orders: 800-234-7813 or 970-346-4603 Fax: 303-699-2793 From gody na elgo.si Sat Feb 15 13:08:16 1997 From: gody na elgo.si (Matjaz Godec) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:29:00 2004 Subject: LUGOS References: Message-ID: On Sat, 15 Feb 1997, Timotej Ecimovic - Cic wrote: > Jaz se ze nekaj casa spravljam za v Monitor napisati en clanek > na temo Linuxa. Za zacetek tako na splosno o Linuxu (v odgovor na > tisti debakel o Windowsih in OS/2, ki so mu dali naslov Operacijski > Sistemi), potem pa, ce bo proradilo, kar redno serijo clankov, > povezanih z Linuxom. Samo spraviti se je tezko.. :( > Ce ti ni odvec, bi predlagal, da pogledas stare clanke, ki so bili objavljeni v Win.Ini pred kaksnim letom ali nekaj takega (aktualna verzija kernela je bila takrat 1.0.9 in distribucija Slackware 1.2). Ker je Linux od takrat krepko napredoval, bi bilo fino to videt tudi iz novih clankov kjerkoli so ze objavljeni. Bilo bi fino tudi, ce lahko upostavas strukturo bralstva Monitorja, ki je veliko manj "hackerska" od bralcev win.ini in jim namenis vec High-End moznosti uporabe Linuxa. > Trenutno se sicer bavim s tisto IPC serijo, ampak casa mam cez in cez dovolj > za se kaksen clanek zraven... > > A se kdo za Monitor ze loteva cesa takega? > Baje bo imel g. Matjaz Potrc clanek o office suitih v eni od naslendjih stevilk. Ce bi se dalo pred tem se kaj napisat v Monitor o samem sistemu ne bi bilo napacno. Bi pa bil vesel, ce bi bili clanki na dovolj visokem nivoju, da se ne bi obsojecim uporabnikom linuxa zacelo kolcati, ko bojo clanek prebrali:)) Se mi zdi, da je 90% clankov v Monitorju na izrazito nestrokovnem nivoju, posebej za ljudi, ki se z opisanim podrocjem poklicno ukvarjajo. gody ___________________________________________________________________________ Matjaz Godec | "ELGO" Maribor d.o.o. | Electronics matjaz.godec@elgo.si | Ul. Josipa Priola 35 | Telecommunications tel/fax:+ 386 62 24 460 | SI 2ooo Maribor, Slovenija | CALDERA-LINUX http://www.elgo.si/ | Slovenian network "SloN" | Internet consultant From cic na latefibm1.fs.uni-lj.si Tue Feb 4 14:46:28 1997 From: cic na latefibm1.fs.uni-lj.si (Timotej Ecimovic) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:29:24 2004 Subject: Linux + HP48SX References: <> Message-ID: <199702041346.OAA23005@latefibm1.fs.uni-lj.si> Hiya! A je kdo tukaj, ki ima HP48SX in ga uporablja z Linuxom kaj vec, kot da vsake toliko casa naredi kaksen backup ali preizkusa kaksne HP48 igrice gor? Mene srbijo prsti. Rad bi naredil HP48SX filesystem! Priklopis HP48SX na recimo /dev/ttyS1, pozenes na njemu en server programcek, ki bi ga naredil, na Linuxu pa naredis kar mount. A ma kdo toliko izkusenj s programiranjem kernela, device driverjev in filesistemov (jaz jih imam tocno nic!), da bi vedel, ce je to vsaj priblizno izvedljivo. In to v plain C-ju, asemblerja se ne grem! Pa tudi ne bi rad temu posvetil ene dve leti zivljenja.... Cic From gody na elgo.si Sat Feb 15 14:03:32 1997 From: gody na elgo.si (Matjaz Godec) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:29:33 2004 Subject: Ima kdo prevec casa in dosti volje ? References: <> Message-ID: Hi ! Imam par predlogov za dolocene Linux related projekte za katere imam nekaj povprasevanja pa ne dovolj casa, da bi jih sam uresnicil. Ta trenutek se na zalost ni dovolj posla v tej sferi, da bi lahko koga redno zaposlil, ce pa je kdo pripravljen nekaj svojega casa in volje vlozit v kasnega od projektov, naj poslje kak E-mail. Problem, ki ga sam vidim pri Linuxu v Sloveniji je predvsem v tem, da se ljudje ne zelijo nicesar sami uciti in jim je vsako branje tuje. 99% uporabnikov racunalnikov zato pri nas enaci racunalnike z Windows okoljem. Tisti, ki se na zadeve spoznajo ali pa se ukvarjajo z Internet servisi, so tako ali tako ze vec ali manj Linux/Un*x/FreeBSD uporabniki. Ce pa hocemo dobiti vec uporabnikov v sirsem sloju, pa jim je treba ponuditi vec. Kar moramo tem uporabnikom ponuditi poleg Internet povezljivosti je po mojem naslednje: 1. serverski sistemi, ki se jih ne bodo niti zavedali, kot na primer SQL RDBM serverji, Fax serverji, EMail serverji za LAN in podobno. 2. Desktop konfigurirani sistemi s kompletnimi aplikacijami in kar je najvaznejse s kompletno podporo slovenskemu jeziku. (Prikaz, tiskanje ...) in to brez da bi karkoli morali uporabniki za to narediti/konfigurirati. (Samo poglejte uspeh Win95 - Slo). Verjetno tisti, ki se ukvarjajo s programiranjem ne rabijo toliko vnaprej konfiguriranih sistemov, ampak mislim da bi tudi za te uporabnike ne bil odvec kaksen prirocnik za uporabo obstojecih pripomockov v slovenscini (no vsaj jaz bi ga z veseljem kupil) 3. Tecaji za sistemske administratorje in predvsem za uporabnike. Od zgoraj omenjenih podrocij je v Sloveniji po mojem delno pokrita samo prva tocka. Ostale so se popolna luknja. Zato ze nekaj casa delam na naslednjih predlogih in realizacijah projektov (ampak se zaradi pomanjkanja casa stveri zelo pocasi premikajo). Tako iscem zainteresirane za delovanje na naslednjih projektih. Projekti bi bili na treh nivojih: 1. Sistemska integracija na server podrocjih 2. Sistemska integracija na desktop podrocjih 3. Tecaji za Linux. Integracija naj bi zajemala tako free kot komercialne produkte, pac glede na potrebe narocnikov. Kar se mi zdi pomembno narediti so predvsem - lokalizacija - enostavni recimo v rpm formatu pripravljeni paketi, ki dolocene sisteme (CND, RedHat, COL, Debian) maksimalno mozno poslovenijo, brez neke dodatne konfiuguracije sistema. - zakljucenost - koncni uporabnik naj ne bi bil primoran karkoli dodatno iskati ali kaj podobnega. Ce jim recimo prirpavimo paket za DTP, mora ta vsebovati kompletna orodja. - povezljivost - ce je le mogoce, je treba skupaj zbrati kompatibilna orodja. - stabilnost - koncni uporabniki niti priblizno ne rabijo zadnjih modnih krikov, kar je vazno tako za uporabnika kot se posebej za vzdrzevalca, ki misli z zadevo resno (in Linux skupnost bi morala misliti resno in za bodocnost). Najdrazje je namrec vzdrzevanje nestabilnih sistemov. add 1. Izdelava server okolja za baze podatkov po c/s protokolih (predvsem sql) z primernim administrativnim okoljem. Ta zadeva je sicer v teku, ampak kot sem ze rekel gre zelo pocasi. Mislim, da bom kmalu dobil se nekaj pomoci v Mariboru, ampak bomo videli. Samo da opredelim razmerja: te stvari morajo biti sposobne delovati na velikosti od par 10 tisoc do par miljonov podatkov v bazi. Ternutno poteka projekt na PostgreSQL engine kasneje pa bi v eventualnih komercialnih projektih uporabili ADABAS D. Proti koncu ze gre projekt Linux - based fax serverja. Integracija fax programske opreme za fax serverje tako lokalno (to je lahko) kot v heterogeni mrezi s popolno slovenizacijo in po moznosti log dodatki. Tukaj ostaja odprto predvsem podrocje fax-on-demand, o katerem sem sicer bral, da je ze na voljo ampak ga se nisem uspel zinstalirati. add 2. tukaj je ta trenutek najbolj aktualna priprava desktop office okolja. Recimo da bi uporabili an ali drugi komercialni paket in ga priredili in stestirali za uporabo v slovenskem okolju. Sem potem se spada enostavnost uporabe (ali na nacin centralnega serverja in X terminalov ali pa z lokalnimi instalacijami). Predvsem je tukaj vazna slovenizacija od A do Z (editiranje, prikaz, tiskanje) in to na absolutno nebolec nacin (za vsako tajnico). Ena izmed zanimivejsih stvari bi recimo bila integracija programskega okolja. Mislim, da bi fantje s faxov in institutov, ki taka okolja ze uporalbjajo lahko tukaj kaj hitro prisli do rezultatov. Misliti moramo namrec tudi na tiste, ki se z racunalniki sele zacenjajo ukvarjati (in se morajo uciti jezikov in ne konfiguraicje), pa na one, ki bi radi svoje izdelke predvsem hitro in enostavno naredili in potem trzili (s tem se bo linux se hitreje siril). Sam za sebe vem, da ne uporabljam niti 10% orodij, ki so na voljo enostavno zato, ker za in o njih ne vem oziroma ne vem dovolj. Ups, predolgo pisanje, bi se bolj splacalo se eno podpoglavje v knjigici dokoncat :)) gody PS. Trenutno ravno zacenjam iskati zaloznika za knjigico "Osnove sistemske in mrezne administracije". A ima kdo kaksne izkusnje. Bil bi zelo vesel, ce bi se v primeru, da najdem primernega zaloznika lahko zmenili se za kaksen "splosni uporabniski vodic skozi Linux" in predvsem knjigice za posamezne zgoraj omenjene stvari. PPS: Ce je kdo zainteresiran za vodenje tecajev naj tudi poslje kak Email. Najprej bodo na vrsti tecaji za sysadm. ___________________________________________________________________________ Matjaz Godec | "ELGO" Maribor d.o.o. | Electronics matjaz.godec@elgo.si | Ul. Josipa Priola 35 | Telecommunications tel/fax:+ 386 62 24 460 | SI 2ooo Maribor, Slovenija | CALDERA-LINUX http://www.elgo.si/ | Slovenian network "SloN" | Internet consultant From uros.platise na fov.uni-mb.si Tue Feb 4 17:24:46 1997 From: uros.platise na fov.uni-mb.si (Uros Platise) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:29:58 2004 Subject: Kermit... References: <199702041250.NAA16507@latefibm1.fs.uni-lj.si> Message-ID: <> Timotej Ecimovic wrote: > > Hiya! > > A ma kdo kaksen star preizkusen kermit? > Rabim za povezavo s HP48SX! > > Enega sem nasel na kermit.columbia.edu in sicer > cku192.slackware-i386.tgz paket. > Ampak je cuden nikakor ne dela. > > Ce nardim: preden laufam > kermita, vidim kako HP poblinkne. > Potem zalaufam kermita, ne uspem narediti nicesar > in ko grem ven se echo kuku > /dev/ttyS1 ne dela vec, > kot da bi kermit zadzemal device in konec.... > > Jaz bi raje kaksen starejsi bolj glupi kermit. > > Cic Jazz imam za najbolj neumne stvari xc To je xcomm, ki zna kar nekaj ampak mi je cisto vseeno. Vse kar sem si skopiral je xc exec. file in stvar dela tako kot hoces. LP uros From miha.tomsic na fmf.uni-lj.si Sat Feb 15 17:38:21 1997 From: miha.tomsic na fmf.uni-lj.si (Miha Tomsic Mike) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:30:05 2004 Subject: Seznam References: <> Message-ID: <> Hojla! OK. Seznam je poln, imamo pa se eno rezervo. Toel bom verjetno ze na zacetkiu tedna odnesel na notariat, da bomo lahko cimprej zbrali vse te podpise. Na seznamu smo: Miha Tom"si"c, Jaka Mele, Dragan Nedeljkovi"c, Matja"z Perme, Primo"z Peterlin, Eduard Pohl, Du"san Mati"c, Matja"z Godec, Edi "Suc in Jure Koren. V kratkem bomo morali imeti ponovno ustanovni sestanek, da pogledamo, "kje smo zdaj" :). Predlagal bi kar cetrtek 27.februar (upam, da nimate prevec izpitov :). Za blagajnika moramo imeti nekoga, ki obvlada kaksno izmed podatkovnih baz (prednost imajo baze pod Linuxom ;) Poleg tega moramo ponovno izvoliti upravni odbor, ker nekako ne funkcionira. Lahko bi tudi ponovno izbrali predsednika, ker se men ne da vec... :) Bye, Mike... - Miha Tomsic Mike -- C. na postajo 55 -- 1351 Brezovica pri Lj. -- SLOVENIA - - home-made -- electronics -- music -- industrial -- physics -- net -- linux - - phylosophy -- poetry -- arts ---- Lower Parts of Abdomen ---- Josef Banale - From uros.platise na fov.uni-mb.si Tue Feb 4 17:29:33 1997 From: uros.platise na fov.uni-mb.si (Uros Platise) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:30:31 2004 Subject: Linux + HP48SX References: <199702041346.OAA23005@latefibm1.fs.uni-lj.si> Message-ID: <> Timotej Ecimovic wrote: > kar mount. A ma kdo toliko izkusenj s programiranjem kernela, > device driverjev in filesistemov (jaz jih imam tocno nic!), Za primer si lahko vzames ntfs, ki se prekompalira kot modul za NTFS read-only filesystem. > da bi vedel, ce je to vsaj priblizno izvedljivo. > In to v plain C-ju, asemblerja se ne grem! > Pa tudi ne bi rad temu posvetil ene dve leti zivljenja.... > Tista koda je kar lepo v C-ju - kar je za UNIX-a priporocljivo, da je koda prenosljiva... Sicer je pa asm najlazji jezik na svetu...hmm.. LP uros From miha.tomsic na fmf.uni-lj.si Sat Feb 15 17:47:56 1997 From: miha.tomsic na fmf.uni-lj.si (Miha Tomsic Mike) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:30:39 2004 Subject: Lista References: <> Message-ID: <> On Sat, 15 Feb 1997, Matjaz Godec wrote: > Verjetno je zadeva enaka s temle sporocilom :)) Ja... Me je tudi Jaka opozoril na to (ravno vajini sporocili sta bili podvojeni, pa se nisem dovolj poglobil v header)... > Pa brez zamere Ni problema, sam zaskrbelo me je, da je kaj narobe... Ampak je slo -- kot vedno -- za cloveski faktor... :) Bye, Mike... - Miha Tomsic Mike -- C. na postajo 55 -- 1351 Brezovica pri Lj. -- SLOVENIA - - home-made -- electronics -- music -- industrial -- physics -- net -- linux - - phylosophy -- poetry -- arts ---- Lower Parts of Abdomen ---- Josef Banale - From snowman na hal9000.medinet.si Wed Feb 5 15:03:50 1997 From: snowman na hal9000.medinet.si (Alen Salamun) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:31:04 2004 Subject: Linux + HP48SX References: <199702041346.OAA23005@latefibm1.fs.uni-lj.si> Message-ID: On Tue, 4 Feb 1997, Timotej Ecimovic wrote: > Mene srbijo prsti. Rad bi naredil HP48SX filesystem! > Priklopis HP48SX na recimo /dev/ttyS1, pozenes na njemu > en server programcek, ki bi ga naredil, na Linuxu pa naredis > kar mount. A ma kdo toliko izkusenj s programiranjem kernela, > device driverjev in filesistemov (jaz jih imam tocno nic!), > da bi vedel, ce je to vsaj priblizno izvedljivo. > In to v plain C-ju, asemblerja se ne grem! > Pa tudi ne bi rad temu posvetil ene dve leti zivljenja.... Hi! Pred kratkim sem kupil HP48G in ne bos verjel...Tudi jaz sem zacel razmislati o enem takem programcku..Mogoce pa lahko zdruzima moci pa bo kaj...(No po mojih glupih izpitih:) ). LP, Alen | Alen Salamun | EMAIL: snowman@hal9000.medinet.si | | -= LiNUX User = | WWW: http://www.medinet.si | | -= The only REAL OS =- | From Dragan.Nedeljkovic na kiss.uni-lj.si Sun Feb 16 09:25:31 1997 From: Dragan.Nedeljkovic na kiss.uni-lj.si (Dragan Nedeljkovic) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:31:13 2004 Subject: Seznam References: Message-ID: <3306C47B.4CE6@kiss.uni-lj.si> Miha Tomsic Mike wrote: > > Hojla! > > OK. Seznam je poln, imamo pa se eno rezervo. Toel bom verjetno ze na > zacetkiu tedna odnesel na notariat, da bomo lahko cimprej zbrali vse te Kateri notariat? > V kratkem bomo morali imeti ponovno ustanovni sestanek, da pogledamo, "kje > smo zdaj" :). Predlagal bi kar cetrtek 27.februar (upam, da nimate prevec > izpitov :). Si bomo nekaj uric ze vzeli, jih imam ze cez glavo... A ma kdo ze kako idejo kje bi se to dobili? Bye, Dragan -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2i mQCNAzLd16wAAAEEALrdF8SU/r71/47hcdlahKeqA74OmLrIGWsi+dFNCWcogZNQ tFKZLZWtekITpj/G/yBp0u6hjgBx0GyN+H4KY9ui7Wo+0abJOY1WVs88YU8TNoDv yIT6NUDx3qteInt0Kn2yLmUodCgImreCKYq1nlbLQ4AB48DLPr1VMQbYgaLpAAUR tDZEcmFnYW4gTmVkZWxqa292aWMgPERyYWdhbi5OZWRlbGprb3ZpY0BraXNzLnVu aS1sai5zaT4= =iPS5 -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From rek na leila.ijs.si Fri Feb 7 06:53:26 1997 From: rek na leila.ijs.si (Zlatko Rek) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:31:38 2004 Subject: Wolfram Research & Linux References: <> Message-ID: <199702070553.GAA18543@ro.zrsss.si> Zdravo, V februarskem Linux Journal-u pise, da pri Wolfram Research kot razvojno platformo za Mathematico uporabljajo Linux... Potem pa v Monitorju preberes oceno "strokovnjaka" za operacijske sisteme za PC-je, da Linux nima prihodnosti...!? Lep pozdrav. Zlatko ______________________________________________________________________________ Dr. Zlatko Rek | Phone:+386 61 177 3746 Jozef Stefan Institute | +386 61 177 3900 National Supercomputing Centre | Fax: +386 61 219 385 Jamova 39, P.O.BOX 300 | E-mail:zlatko.rek@nsc.ijs.si SI-1001 Ljubljana, SLOVENIA | http://www2.ijs.si/~rek/ ______________________________________________________________________________ From miha.tomsic na fmf.uni-lj.si Sun Feb 16 11:10:39 1997 From: miha.tomsic na fmf.uni-lj.si (Miha Tomsic Mike) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:31:47 2004 Subject: Seznam References: <> Message-ID: <> Hojla! On Sun, 16 Feb 1997, Dragan Nedeljkovic wrote: > Kateri notariat? Notar na Trgu republike 3. > > V kratkem bomo morali imeti ponovno ustanovni sestanek, da pogledamo, "kje > > smo zdaj" :). Predlagal bi kar cetrtek 27.februar (upam, da nimate prevec > > izpitov :). > Si bomo nekaj uric ze vzeli, jih imam ze cez glavo... Mogoce bi se raje dobili en teden kasneje, 6.marca... > A ma kdo ze kako idejo kje bi se to dobili? Jaz lahko spet dobim tisto predavalnico na faksu... Bye, Mike... - Miha Tomsic Mike -- C. na postajo 55 -- 1351 Brezovica pri Lj. -- SLOVENIA - - home-made -- electronics -- music -- industrial -- physics -- net -- linux - - phylosophy -- poetry -- arts ---- Lower Parts of Abdomen ---- Josef Banale - From lugos na ro.zrsss.si Sun Feb 16 11:12:15 1997 From: lugos na ro.zrsss.si (Linux User Group Of Slovenia) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:32:24 2004 Subject: Forwarded mail.... References: <> Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 28 Jan 97 13:57:42 +0100 From: ciglic@iskratel.si To: lugos@ro.zrsss.si Zdravo, Ali ima kdo kaksne izkusnje z uzpostavitvijo PPP na SHIVO? Pod W95 mi stvar deluje (Sistem klice, se identificira, caka na povratni klic, dvigne, se ponovno identificira in vse deluje OK). Vse se dogaja v ozadju tako, da nic ne vem kaj se vresnici dogaja. Poizkusal sem z raznimi skripti za "seyon" (utopija). Vse kar sem uspel izvedeti, je le to da naj bi se identifikacija in ostalo izvajalo po protokolu "chap". Hvala za pomoc. Lep pozdrav, Andrej Ciglic ciglic@iskratel.si From gody na elgo.si Fri Feb 7 08:32:10 1997 From: gody na elgo.si (Matjaz Godec) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:32:53 2004 Subject: Wolfram Research & Linux References: <199702070553.GAA18543@ro.zrsss.si> Message-ID: On Fri, 7 Feb 1997, Zlatko Rek wrote: > Zdravo, > > V februarskem Linux Journal-u pise, da pri Wolfram Research kot > razvojno platformo za Mathematico uporabljajo Linux... > Potem pa v Monitorju preberes oceno "strokovnjaka" za operacijske > sisteme za PC-je, da Linux nima prihodnosti...!? > > Lep pozdrav. > Zlatko > Ja, za Monitor je res nima. Ce bo Linux splosno uporabljen, kdo za vraga pa jim bo placeval tako divje drage reklame ? Sicer pa iz Monitorjevih clankov veje predvsem gromozansko pomankanje znanja in razgledanosti na racunalniskem prodrocju na splosno. So pac odraz stanja v slovenskem prostoru, ki ga je bolj ali manj kupil Microsoft. Samo poglejmo si stanje na podrocju uporabe sumnikov in sicnikov. Namesto dogovorjenih ISO je kar Microstoft postavil svoje standarde in mi se kot ovce temu podrejamo. Pa tudi v vsaki manjsi, sredni pa tudi vecji firmi se ljudje v IS kar krizati zacnejo, ce jim clovek omeni kakrsen koli Unix. (Posledica pomankanja Unixa v solah, bi rekel). gody ___________________________________________________________________________ Matjaz Godec | "ELGO" Maribor d.o.o. | Electronics matjaz.godec@elgo.si | Ul. Josipa Priola 35 | Telecommunications tel/fax:+ 386 62 24 460 | SI 2ooo Maribor, Slovenija | CALDERA-LINUX http://www.elgo.si/ | Slovenian network "SloN" | Internet consultant From metod.kozelj na rzs-hm.si Mon Feb 17 20:37:36 1997 From: metod.kozelj na rzs-hm.si (Metod Kozelj) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:33:05 2004 Subject: Linux in Cyrix 686 procesorji References: <> Message-ID: <> Howdy! > Imam eno vprasanje glede Pentium kompatibilnih procesorjev. > Ali kdo poganja Linuxa s K5 (AMD) ali s Cyrix P133+ - 200+ > procesorjem, oziroma, ce ima kdo iskusnje s tem. Ce deluje > ali delujejo tudi ostale aplikacije za Linux, pa tudi za > ostale Operacijske sisteme. Slisal sem namrec, da ne deluje > vse, pri NT - jih pa izkljuci write back Cachea procesorja. > Ker imam kompletnega Pentiuma doma, pa brez procesorja, se > zanimam, kaj naj kupim. Za odgovore hvala ze vnaprej. Jaz imam doma Cyrix P150+ in mi Linux (2.0.28, Slackware 3.0) ter Win95 delujejo brez vsakega problema. Linux kernel sem popatchal, tako da mi `uname -a` javi sledece: hasso:~$ uname -a Linux hasso 2.0.28 #2 Sat Jan 18 15:17:39 CET 1997 i586 Pac pa bi se pridruzil trditvam, da Cyrixov FPU ni ravno na ravni slovesa firme. Zadnjic sem poganjal MPEG audio encoder na 36M dolgi wav datoteki, enkrat doma, drugica pa na sluzbenem P100. Po mojem obcutku je stvar na Cyrixu trajala kaksnih 20% dalj, ce pa kdo zeli, pa lahko tudi stopam porabljen cas. Ampak za svoj denar pa Cyrix daje veliko. Aja, Cyrixa imam na plosci s HX cipsetom, 64M RAMa, 512K cacha, 2G EIDE WD disk, ATI Mach64 GX grafika. Slisal sem veliko o raznih tezavah, ki naj bi jih ljudje imeli s tem procesorjem. Na koncu se je vecinoma izkazalo, da plosce niso bile delane za Cyrixa (moja mi pri bootanju napise, da imam gor Cyrixa). Peace! Mkx From david.klasinc na fcc.si Fri Feb 7 08:46:46 1997 From: david.klasinc na fcc.si (David Klasinc) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:33:30 2004 Subject: Pozdrav... References: <199702070553.GAA18543@ro.zrsss.si> Message-ID: <32FADDE6.16C65844@fcc.si> Hiya, Na tole listo sem se priklopil nekaj dni nazaj in me zanima ce je ziva.... :) David! From Casar na uni-mb.si Sun Feb 16 13:14:13 1997 From: Casar na uni-mb.si (Ales Casar) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:33:38 2004 Subject: LUGOS References: Message-ID: On Fri, 14 Feb 1997, Miha Tomsic Mike wrote: > sli overovit svoje podpise boste placali cca 500Sit, kar je polovica > polletne clanarine. S tem pa boste imeli za nagrado ze placano clanarino > za pol leta. 500 SIT na 3 mesece sicer ni ne vem kako strahotno dosti, ampak vseeno, kaksne koristi bi potencialni clan imel od tega? Kakor vidim na mail listi lahko sodelujejo tudi neclani, WWW strani pravtako lahko gledajo vsi, kaj drugega pa ni bilo opaziti. Ales -- Ales Casar | InterNet: Casar@uni-mb.si, A.Casar@ieee.org, Faculty of EE & CS | A.Casar@s-gms.ms.edus.si University of Maribor | DECnet: RCUM::ALES SLOVENIA | WWW: http://www.el.feri.uni-mb.si/~ales/ From metod.kozelj na rzs-hm.si Mon Feb 17 21:12:28 1997 From: metod.kozelj na rzs-hm.si (Metod Kozelj) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:33:40 2004 Subject: Linux in Cyrix 686 procesorji References: <> Message-ID: <> Howdy se enkrat! Nerad sam nase delam reply, ampak sem se naknadno spomnil se nekaj: > Pac pa bi se pridruzil trditvam, da Cyrixov FPU ni ravno na ravni > slovesa firme. Ce koga zanimajo se kaksne stevilke, jih imam nekaj zbranih na http://www.rzs-hm.si/people/Metod.Kozelj/bench.html Peace! Mkx From metod.kozelj na rzs-hm.si Fri Feb 7 11:28:53 1997 From: metod.kozelj na rzs-hm.si (Metod Kozelj) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:34:05 2004 Subject: Wolfram Research & Linux References: <> Message-ID: <> Howdy! > > V februarskem Linux Journal-u pise, da pri Wolfram Research kot > > razvojno platformo za Mathematico uporabljajo Linux... > > Potem pa v Monitorju preberes oceno "strokovnjaka" za operacijske > > sisteme za PC-je, da Linux nima prihodnosti...!? > > Ja, za Monitor je res nima. Ce bo Linux splosno uporabljen, kdo za vraga > pa jim bo placeval tako divje drage reklame ? Ravno sem hotel nakaj takega zapisat. Na splosno se mi zdi, da v Monitorju ne vidijo cez meje M$ nadomestkov za OS. Se za OS/2 (ki je precej podobne Loose produktom) ne najdejo kaj dosti besed, vse ostalo jim je pa cisto odvec. V bistvu je hec: Monitor s svojim dokaj nevtralno naravnanim imenom skoraj ritoliznisko pise le o M$, Win.ini, ki ima skoraj perverzno ime, pa pise o vsem zivem. Pa naj clovek razume. > Pa tudi v vsaki manjsi, sredni pa tudi vecji firmi se ljudje v IS kar > krizati zacnejo, ce jim clovek omeni kakrsen koli Unix. (Posledica > pomankanja Unixa v solah, bi rekel). Zalostno, toda resnicno. Lahko potrdim iz lastnih izkusenj. Peace! Mkx -- Metod Kozelj e-mail: Metod.Kozelj@rzs-hm.si WWW: http://www.rzs-hm.si/people/Metod.Kozelj/ From Casar na uni-mb.si Sun Feb 16 13:22:25 1997 From: Casar na uni-mb.si (Ales Casar) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:34:13 2004 Subject: LUGOS References: Message-ID: On Sat, 15 Feb 1997, Timotej Ecimovic - Cic wrote: > Trenutno se sicer bavim s tisto IPC serijo, ampak casa mam cez in cez dovolj > za se kaksen clanek zraven... No, kaj takega...?!?! Imas kaksen recept za cas? Od vseh stvari, ki mi primanjkujejo, mi casa se najbolj primanjkuje in skoraj ne pomnim vec, kdaj je bilo zadnjic, da sem imel cez in cez dovolj casa. Sicer pa me je tisti clanek o komunikacijah med procesi navdusil in ze nestrpno pricakujem nadaljevanje. Ales -- Ales Casar | InterNet: Casar@uni-mb.si, A.Casar@ieee.org, Faculty of EE & CS | A.Casar@s-gms.ms.edus.si University of Maribor | DECnet: RCUM::ALES SLOVENIA | WWW: http://www.el.feri.uni-mb.si/~ales/ From casar na uni-mb.si Tue Feb 18 10:04:27 1997 From: casar na uni-mb.si (Ales Casar) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:34:15 2004 Subject: Linux in Cyrix 686 procesorji References: <33087091.715B@eunet.si> Message-ID: On Mon, 17 Feb 1997, Lipovec Marko wrote: > Imam eno vprasanje glede Pentium kompatibilnih procesorjev. > Ali kdo poganja Linuxa s K5 (AMD) ali s Cyrix P133+ - 200+ > procesorjem, oziroma, ce ima kdo iskusnje s tem. Ce deluje > ali delujejo tudi ostale aplikacije za Linux, pa tudi za Kolega pravi, da ima 133 MHz K5 (AMD) in da mu dela vse v redu in opazno hitreje kot z 100 MHz 486/DX4. Osebnih izkusenj z ne-Inteli pa nimam. > Ker imam kompletnega Pentiuma doma, pa brez procesorja, se > zanimam, kaj naj kupim. Za odgovore hvala ze vnaprej. Menda naj bi se splacalo nabaviti Intelovega P133 in ga "overclock-ati" na 166 MHz. Ampak to ne dela z vsakim P133, ne z vsako maticno plosco, ne z vsakim RAMom... Ales -- Ales Casar | InterNet: Casar@uni-mb.si, A.Casar@ieee.org, Faculty of EE & CS | A.Casar@s-gms.ms.edus.si University of Maribor | DECnet: RCUM::ALES SLOVENIA | WWW: http://www.el.feri.uni-mb.si/~ales/ From andrej.bagon na guest.arnes.si Fri Feb 7 15:03:26 1997 From: andrej.bagon na guest.arnes.si (Andrej Bagon) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:34:39 2004 Subject: Wolfram Research & Linux References: <199702070553.GAA18543@ro.zrsss.si> Message-ID: <> Zlatko Rek wrote: > > Zdravo, > > V februarskem Linux Journal-u pise, da pri Wolfram Research kot > razvojno platformo za Mathematico uporabljajo Linux... > Potem pa v Monitorju preberes oceno "strokovnjaka" za operacijske > sisteme za PC-je, da Linux nima prihodnosti...!? > > Lep pozdrav. > Zlatko o tistem o operacijskih sem ze hotu pisat sam me ne nekdo prehitel :) res full odlicen clanek ce prvic v zivljenju vidis PCe al pa druge computerje.. Andrej -- _____________________________________________________________________ | Andrej Bagon | e-mail: andrej.bagon@guest.arnes.si or | andrej.bagon@helij.s-tsc.ng.edus.si | Home Page: http://helij.s-tsc.ng.edus.si/~xopy/index.html | Linux user: http://www.linux.org/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- From miha.tomsic na fmf.uni-lj.si Sun Feb 16 16:53:21 1997 From: miha.tomsic na fmf.uni-lj.si (Miha Tomsic Mike) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:34:48 2004 Subject: LUGOS References: <> Message-ID: <> Hojla! On Sun, 16 Feb 1997, Ales Casar wrote: > 500 SIT na 3 mesece sicer ni ne vem kako strahotno dosti, ampak vseeno, > kaksne koristi bi potencialni clan imel od tega? Kakor vidim na mail listi > lahko sodelujejo tudi neclani, WWW strani pravtako lahko gledajo vsi, kaj > drugega pa ni bilo opaziti. Menili smo se za popuste pri podjetjih, ki prodajajo Linux opremo... Bye, Mike... - Miha Tomsic Mike -- C. na postajo 55 -- 1351 Brezovica pri Lj. -- SLOVENIA - - home-made -- electronics -- music -- industrial -- physics -- net -- linux - - phylosophy -- poetry -- arts ---- Lower Parts of Abdomen ---- Josef Banale - From casar na uni-mb.si Tue Feb 18 10:16:59 1997 From: casar na uni-mb.si (Ales Casar) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:34:51 2004 Subject: Linux in Cyrix 686 procesorji References: <01IFJ9TEN1WI8WVZN3@rzs-hm.si> Message-ID: On Mon, 17 Feb 1997, Metod Kozelj wrote: > Howdy se enkrat! Aha, vrnitev odpisanih. :) Ocitno so zamere okrog elektricarjev, gasilcev in podobnega ze pozabljene. Lepo. :) > Ce koga zanimajo se kaksne stevilke, jih imam nekaj zbranih na > > http://www.rzs-hm.si/people/Metod.Kozelj/bench.html Zanimivo! In kje bi se dalo dobiti source za te teste, da clovek se sam poskusi na kako hitrih masinah dela? Na zgoraj omenjeni WWW strani je tudi link na "navadno verzijo", ki ne dela. Ales -- Ales Casar | InterNet: Casar@uni-mb.si, A.Casar@ieee.org, Faculty of EE & CS | A.Casar@s-gms.ms.edus.si University of Maribor | DECnet: RCUM::ALES SLOVENIA | WWW: http://www.el.feri.uni-mb.si/~ales/ From samuel.gabor na guest.arnes.si Fri Feb 7 16:26:07 1997 From: samuel.gabor na guest.arnes.si (Samuel Gabor) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:35:18 2004 Subject: HTML References: <> Message-ID: <> Heya Pozna kdo kak dober HTML urejevalnik za Linux? (Pa ne "vi". :>) Pri Sausage Software so nekaj obljubljali HotDog/Unix, ostali pa so pri Windows druzini. Bye, Sammy From ales.horvat na nevtron.si Sun Feb 16 18:10:22 1997 From: ales.horvat na nevtron.si (Ales Horvat) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:35:27 2004 Subject: IPC (Was: Re: LUGOS) References: Message-ID: <33073F7E.51E6987F@nevtron.si> Ales Casar wrote: > > Trenutno se sicer bavim s tisto IPC serijo, ampak casa mam cez in cez dovolj > > za se kaksen clanek zraven... > > Sicer pa me je tisti clanek o komunikacijah med procesi navdusil in ze > nestrpno pricakujem nadaljevanje. > Ko sem instaliral Slackware 3.0 sem nekje dobil dokumentacijo o IPCju ter primere *.c za vse vrste IPCov. Kam je to izginilo v novem Slacku? Pobrskal sem po starem CDju pa niti tam vec ne najdem. :] Ima kdo kaksno idejo? Bye, A. From david.klasinc na fcc.si Tue Feb 18 10:53:54 1997 From: david.klasinc na fcc.si (David Klasinc) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:35:29 2004 Subject: Linux in Cyrix 686 procesorji References: Message-ID: <33097C32.E86E4E9@fcc.si> Ales Casar wrote: > > Imam eno vprasanje glede Pentium kompatibilnih procesorjev. > > ali delujejo tudi ostale aplikacije za Linux, pa tudi za > > Kolega pravi, da ima 133 MHz K5 (AMD) in da mu dela vse v redu in opazno > hitreje kot z 100 MHz 486/DX4. Osebnih izkusenj z ne-Inteli pa nimam. Cudno v sluzbi sem linux poganjal kar nekac casa na 133MHz AMDju pa nisem opazil bixstvenih razlik... Je malenkost hitrejsi kod Intel DX4 100MHz... Jaz osebno ne zamenjam Intela... :) > Menda naj bi se splacalo nabaviti Intelovega P133 in ga "overclock-ati" na > 166 MHz. Ampak to ne dela z vsakim P133, ne z vsako maticno plosco, ne z > vsakim RAMom... Bad Idea... ;) To se je najbolje obneslo z AMDjevim DX2 80MHz pa se takrat se je masina vcasih prav grdo obesila... David! From jack na ro.zrsss.si Fri Feb 7 19:04:08 1997 From: jack na ro.zrsss.si (Jaka Mele) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:35:53 2004 Subject: HTML References: Message-ID: On Fri, 7 Feb 1997, Samuel Gabor wrote: > Pozna kdo kak dober HTML urejevalnik za Linux? (Pa ne "vi". :>) Pri > Sausage Software so nekaj obljubljali HotDog/Unix, ostali pa so pri > Windows druzini. > Joe v konzoli in netscape v x-ih :) bye, Jack Jaka Mele | jaka.mele@arnes.si | Those who do not understand Unix ARNES, Jamova 39 | Tel: +386 61 125-1515 | are condemned to reinvent it, SI-1000 Ljubljana | Fax: +386 61 125-5454 | poorly. Member of Linux User Group Of Slovenia http://www.zrsss.si/~lugos/ From casar na uni-mb.si Mon Feb 17 08:53:23 1997 From: casar na uni-mb.si (Ales Casar) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:36:03 2004 Subject: Forwarded mail.... References: Message-ID: On Sun, 16 Feb 1997, Linux User Group Of Slovenia wrote: > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Tue, 28 Jan 97 13:57:42 +0100 > From: ciglic@iskratel.si > To: lugos@ro.zrsss.si > > Zdravo, > > Ali ima kdo kaksne izkusnje z uzpostavitvijo PPP na SHIVO? > Pod W95 mi stvar deluje (Sistem klice, se identificira, caka na > povratni klic, dvigne, se ponovno identificira in vse deluje OK). > Vse se dogaja v ozadju tako, da nic ne vem kaj se vresnici dogaja. > Poizkusal sem z raznimi skripti za "seyon" (utopija). > Vse kar sem uspel izvedeti, je le to da naj bi se identifikacija > in ostalo izvajalo po protokolu "chap". > > Hvala za pomoc. > > Lep pozdrav, > > Andrej Ciglic > ciglic@iskratel.si Ta isti mail smo enkrat pred casom ze imeli na mail listi. Ales -- Ales Casar | InterNet: Casar@uni-mb.si, A.Casar@ieee.org, Faculty of EE & CS | A.Casar@s-gms.ms.edus.si University of Maribor | DECnet: RCUM::ALES SLOVENIA | WWW: http://www.el.feri.uni-mb.si/~ales/ From jack na ro.zrsss.si Tue Feb 18 11:19:07 1997 From: jack na ro.zrsss.si (Jaka Mele) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:36:05 2004 Subject: Linux in Cyrix 686 procesorji References: <33097C32.E86E4E9@fcc.si> Message-ID: On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, David Klasinc wrote: > > Menda naj bi se splacalo nabaviti Intelovega P133 in ga "overclock-ati" na > > 166 MHz. Ampak to ne dela z vsakim P133, ne z vsako maticno plosco, ne z > > vsakim RAMom... > Bad Idea... ;) To se je najbolje obneslo z AMDjevim DX2 80MHz pa se > takrat se je masina vcasih prav grdo obesila... > Ideja je super. P133 se da fino naterat na 180 ... Sicer pa si vse poglejte na res enkratnem web pagu: http://sysdoc.pair.com/ bye, Jack Jaka Mele | jaka.mele@arnes.si | Those who do not understand Unix ARNES, Jamova 39 | Tel: +386 61 125-1515 | are condemned to reinvent it, SI-1000 Ljubljana | Fax: +386 61 125-5454 | poorly. Member of Linux User Group Of Slovenia http://www.zrsss.si/~lugos/ From gody na elgo.si Fri Feb 7 21:22:20 1997 From: gody na elgo.si (Matjaz Godec) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:36:31 2004 Subject: HTML References: Message-ID: On Fri, 7 Feb 1997, Samuel Gabor wrote: > Heya > > Pozna kdo kak dober HTML urejevalnik za Linux? (Pa ne "vi". :>) Pri > Sausage Software so nekaj obljubljali HotDog/Unix, ostali pa so pri > Windows druzini. > > Bye, > Sammy > asWedit je izvrsten (obstaja evaluation in komercialna verzija). Nahaja se med drugim na Caldera Solution CD. Poskusi pogledati na: http://sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk/packages/www/asWedit/ Probal sem pa tudi phoenix www editor in tkwww editor. asWedit, te najbolj vodi skozi kreiranje WWW strani po pravilih in podpira html-3 proposal. gody ___________________________________________________________________________ Matjaz Godec | "ELGO" Maribor d.o.o. | Electronics matjaz.godec@elgo.si | Ul. Josipa Priola 35 | Telecommunications tel/fax:+ 386 62 24 460 | SI 2ooo Maribor, Slovenija | CALDERA-LINUX http://www.elgo.si/ | Slovenian network "SloN" | Internet consultant From casar na uni-mb.si Mon Feb 17 08:57:36 1997 From: casar na uni-mb.si (Ales Casar) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:36:42 2004 Subject: LUGOS References: Message-ID: On Sun, 16 Feb 1997, Miha Tomsic Mike wrote: > Menili smo se za popuste pri podjetjih, ki prodajajo Linux opremo... A sem spadajo tudi podjetja, ki prodajajo PCje in sestavne dele za PCje? Navsezadnje je tudi PC za Linux potrebna oprema. Ales -- Ales Casar | InterNet: Casar@uni-mb.si, A.Casar@ieee.org, Faculty of EE & CS | A.Casar@s-gms.ms.edus.si University of Maribor | DECnet: RCUM::ALES SLOVENIA | WWW: http://www.el.feri.uni-mb.si/~ales/ From jack na ro.zrsss.si Tue Feb 18 12:25:50 1997 From: jack na ro.zrsss.si (Jaka Mele) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:36:45 2004 Subject: LINUX TRI CD - spisek narocil References: <> Message-ID: Ziv Torej za tale CD, Linux Systems Labs, has done it again! We are pleased to offer an updated version of our TRI-LINUX CD which contains: Redhat 4.1 (Intel), Slackware 3.1, Debian 1.2.5 Pricing: $2.98(US) Availability: Now Shipping Please visit our web site at http://www.lsl.com for complete ordering information. Some of the changes that since our last release include: * Over 50 Security patches, updates and bug fixes to the Slackware 3.1cd since our last release. * Over 55 updated Debian packages since our previous version of Debian * 10 updated RPMs since the official Redhat 4.1 was released. ste se prijavili spodaj nasteti (ce se vase ime pojavi Nkrat to pomeni da ste narocili N cdjev). Cena bo kot obljubljeno 500-700 sit. Ce se zeli prijaviti se kdo naj poslje mail direktno meni na jack@ro.zrsss.si in NE NA LISTO! Prijave zbiram do ponedeljka 24.2 do 8.00 ure zjutraj :) Potem narocim, in mislim da bo trajalo kake 7-14 dni za posto... Sicer pa ta teden se poklicem nase vrle carinike in se pozanimam ce bodo kaksne tezave, oziroma kako se jim izogniti. spisek narocnikov (23): Ales Casar "mk" Dori Seliskar "Marko Setinc" Matej Komelj Marko Luksa Uros Indihar Eduard Pohl Metod Kozelj Matjaz Godec Miha Tomsic Mike Dusan Matic Andrej Bagon Igor Zaverski ciglic@iskratel.si Jure Koren "Roman Osredkar" "Robert Meolic, FERI Maribor, Slovenija" Andrej Kruscic Marko Macek Igor Zaverski Igor Zaverski Jure Mencinger bye, Jack Jaka Mele | jaka.mele@arnes.si | Those who do not understand Unix ARNES, Jamova 39 | Tel: +386 61 125-1515 | are condemned to reinvent it, SI-1000 Ljubljana | Fax: +386 61 125-5454 | poorly. Member of Linux User Group Of Slovenia http://www.zrsss.si/~lugos/ From david.klasinc na fcc.si Sat Feb 8 09:05:11 1997 From: david.klasinc na fcc.si (David Klasinc) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:37:12 2004 Subject: HTML References: Message-ID: <> Samuel Gabor wrote: > > Heya > > Pozna kdo kak dober HTML urejevalnik za Linux? (Pa ne "vi". :>) Pri > Sausage Software so nekaj obljubljali HotDog/Unix, ostali pa so pri > Windows druzini. joe & netscape ;) David! From jack na ro.zrsss.si Mon Feb 17 09:05:52 1997 From: jack na ro.zrsss.si (Jaka Mele) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:37:20 2004 Subject: LUGOS References: Message-ID: On Mon, 17 Feb 1997, Ales Casar wrote: > On Sun, 16 Feb 1997, Miha Tomsic Mike wrote: > > Menili smo se za popuste pri podjetjih, ki prodajajo Linux opremo... > A sem spadajo tudi podjetja, ki prodajajo PCje in sestavne dele za PCje? > Navsezadnje je tudi PC za Linux potrebna oprema. > Zakaj pa ne. Sicer pa se nismo se nic menili, tako da so vse opcije odprte. Bomo o tem debatirali ko bomo enkrat formalno obstajali. bye, Jack Jaka Mele | jaka.mele@arnes.si | Those who do not understand Unix ARNES, Jamova 39 | Tel: +386 61 125-1515 | are condemned to reinvent it, SI-1000 Ljubljana | Fax: +386 61 125-5454 | poorly. Member of Linux User Group Of Slovenia http://www.zrsss.si/~lugos/ From andrejc na tyr.fe.uni-lj.si Tue Feb 18 13:17:55 1997 From: andrejc na tyr.fe.uni-lj.si (Andrej Cedilnik) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:37:22 2004 Subject: Sort za polje struktur References: <> Message-ID: <33099DF3.2EE@tyr.fe.uni-lj.si> Heja! en c-jevski problem: Imam naslednjo strukturo: typedef struct { char koda[10]; char text[100]; } ELEMENT ELEMENT el[100]; sedaj pa nekaj nafila to z elementi in rad bi to sorteral po kodi. Kakšna ideja? Andy -- * / * andrejc@tyr.fe.uni-lj.si /-\ | | |-\ \ / \|/ http://www.nevtron.si/andy/ | | |\ | | | \/ \--*--\ +-+ | \| | | / /|\ "Gabber is the only drug!" | | | | |-/ / * / * "Let's get drugged!!" From samuel.gabor na guest.arnes.si Sat Feb 8 14:40:01 1997 From: samuel.gabor na guest.arnes.si (Samuel Gabor) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:37:48 2004 Subject: HTML References: <> Message-ID: <> On Fri, 7 Feb 1997, Matjaz Godec wrote: > > Pozna kdo kak dober HTML urejevalnik za Linux? (Pa ne "vi". :>) Pri > > Sausage Software so nekaj obljubljali HotDog/Unix, ostali pa so pri > > Windows druzini. > asWedit je izvrsten (obstaja evaluation in komercialna verzija). > Nahaja se med drugim na Caldera Solution CD. > Poskusi pogledati na: > http://sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk/packages/www/asWedit/ > Probal sem pa tudi phoenix www editor in tkwww editor. > asWedit, te najbolj vodi skozi kreiranje WWW strani po pravilih in > podpira html-3 proposal. Sem poskusil, hvala. Mi je kar vsec, ceprav bi imel raje kak HotDog. Zahvaljujem se tudi JackSiju in Davidu za predlog joe-a. :) Bye, Sammy From gody na elgo.si Mon Feb 17 09:58:48 1997 From: gody na elgo.si (Matjaz Godec) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:37:59 2004 Subject: LUGOS References: Message-ID: On Mon, 17 Feb 1997, Ales Casar wrote: > > A sem spadajo tudi podjetja, ki prodajajo PCje in sestavne dele za PCje? > Navsezadnje je tudi PC za Linux potrebna oprema. > > Ales Sem spadajo vsa podjetja, ki bodo pokazala interes za taksno sodelovanje. gody ___________________________________________________________________________ Matjaz Godec | "ELGO" Maribor d.o.o. | Electronics matjaz.godec@elgo.si | Ul. Josipa Priola 35 | Telecommunications tel/fax:+ 386 62 24 460 | SI 2ooo Maribor, Slovenija | CALDERA-LINUX http://www.elgo.si/ | Slovenian network "SloN" | Internet consultant From rek na leila.ijs.si Tue Feb 18 13:25:48 1997 From: rek na leila.ijs.si (Zlatko Rek) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:38:02 2004 Subject: LINUX TRI CD - spisek narocil References: Message-ID: <199702181225.NAA08247@ro.zrsss.si> > ure zjutraj :) Potem narocim, in mislim da bo trajalo kake 7-14 dni za > posto... Sicer pa ta teden se poklicem nase vrle carinike in se pozanimam > ce bodo kaksne tezave, oziroma kako se jim izogniti. Razen ce bo slo z UPS! Pri meni so za dostavo enega 50 $US vrednega narocila porabili 4,5 (stiri in pol) meseca!? Lep pozdrav Zlatko ______________________________________________________________________________ Dr. Zlatko Rek | Phone:+386 61 177 3746 Jozef Stefan Institute | +386 61 177 3900 National Supercomputing Centre | Fax: +386 61 219 385 Jamova 39, P.O.BOX 300 | E-mail:zlatko.rek@nsc.ijs.si SI-1001 Ljubljana, SLOVENIA | http://www2.ijs.si/~rek/ ______________________________________________________________________________ From klasinc na sk-pttsc.lj.edus.si Sat Feb 8 15:56:26 1997 From: klasinc na sk-pttsc.lj.edus.si (David Klasinc) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:38:28 2004 Subject: HTML References: Message-ID: On Sat, 8 Feb 1997, Samuel Gabor wrote: > Sem poskusil, hvala. Mi je kar vsec, ceprav bi imel raje kak HotDog. HotDog lahko dobis na avtobusni postaji ce si izLjubljane... :P > Zahvaljujem se tudi JackSiju in Davidu za predlog joe-a. :) Ah, it's no big deal... ;) DAvid! From mare.lipovec na eunet.si Mon Feb 17 15:52:58 1997 From: mare.lipovec na eunet.si (Lipovec Marko) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:38:38 2004 Subject: Linux in Cyrix 686 procesorji References: <> Message-ID: <33087091.715B@eunet.si> Zdravo, vsi! Imam eno vprasanje glede Pentium kompatibilnih procesorjev. Ali kdo poganja Linuxa s K5 (AMD) ali s Cyrix P133+ - 200+ procesorjem, oziroma, ce ima kdo iskusnje s tem. Ce deluje ali delujejo tudi ostale aplikacije za Linux, pa tudi za ostale Operacijske sisteme. Slisal sem namrec, da ne deluje vse, pri NT - jih pa izkljuci write back Cachea procesorja. Ker imam kompletnega Pentiuma doma, pa brez procesorja, se zanimam, kaj naj kupim. Za odgovore hvala ze vnaprej. Pa se eno majhno opozorilo, ceprav tole ne pase ravno v tole listo! Ce kdo instalira Caldera dos, ki je zastonj na njihovem WWW serverju, naj malo pazi na novi F-DISK. Jaz sem namrec pri instalaciji nove particije dobil napake na particijah Windows NT in LINUX! Oziroma, se mi sedaj Linux in NT-ji ne startajo vec, ker ne najdejo vec vseh svojih datotek???! Windows 95 pa delujejo normalno dalje. Vse skupaj imam na WD hard disku velikosti 2,5Gb, Pentium 133 in osnovna plosca Intel HX. Ce je se kdo opazil kaj podobnega se za informacije priporocam! Ciao, Mare mare.lipovec@eunet.si From jack na ro.zrsss.si Tue Feb 18 13:28:56 1997 From: jack na ro.zrsss.si (Jaka Mele) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:38:41 2004 Subject: LINUX TRI CD - spisek narocil References: <199702181225.NAA08247@ro.zrsss.si> Message-ID: On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, Zlatko Rek wrote: > > ure zjutraj :) Potem narocim, in mislim da bo trajalo kake 7-14 dni za > > posto... Sicer pa ta teden se poklicem nase vrle carinike in se pozanimam > > ce bodo kaksne tezave, oziroma kako se jim izogniti. > Razen ce bo slo z UPS! Pri meni so za dostavo enega 50 $US vrednega > narocila porabili 4,5 (stiri in pol) meseca!? > Uh :) Jaz imam do sedaj kar ok izkusnje. Ko sem kupoval se direkt od InfoMagica, je trajalo od 5 (rekord) do 16 dni. Linux Bible od Yggdrasila pa se je izgubil na posti, pol ko sem jih cez 2 meseca napizdil pa so mi poslali po UPSu in je prislo v 3. (treh) dneh. :) Ocitno vse skupaj ful varira. bye, Jack Jaka Mele | jaka.mele@arnes.si | Those who do not understand Unix ARNES, Jamova 39 | Tel: +386 61 125-1515 | are condemned to reinvent it, SI-1000 Ljubljana | Fax: +386 61 125-5454 | poorly. Member of Linux User Group Of Slovenia http://www.zrsss.si/~lugos/ From miha.tomsic na fmf.uni-lj.si Mon Feb 17 19:52:43 1997 From: miha.tomsic na fmf.uni-lj.si (Miha Tomsic Mike) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:39:17 2004 Subject: LUGOS References: <> Message-ID: <> Hojla! On Mon, 17 Feb 1997, Ales Casar wrote: > > Menili smo se za popuste pri podjetjih, ki prodajajo Linux opremo... > A sem spadajo tudi podjetja, ki prodajajo PCje in sestavne dele za PCje? > Navsezadnje je tudi PC za Linux potrebna oprema. Ce se lahko s kom zmenis bomo veseli vsakega cekina... To bo zur... :) Bye, Mike... - Miha Tomsic Mike -- C. na postajo 55 -- 1351 Brezovica pri Lj. -- SLOVENIA - - home-made -- electronics -- music -- industrial -- physics -- net -- linux - - phylosophy -- poetry -- arts ---- Lower Parts of Abdomen ---- Josef Banale - From janez.dovc na guest.arnes.si Mon Feb 10 15:38:41 1997 From: janez.dovc na guest.arnes.si (Janez) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:39:37 2004 Subject: [ LUGOS ] se KDE 1.1 References: <> Message-ID: <000c01bc1760$206c50c0$a802f9c2@johan> Pa itak mors dodat kdepath v path, drgac ti ne bo uredu delal. lp Janez -----Original Message----- From: Gregor Kompara To: lugos-list@lugos.si Date: 10. februar 1999 1:23 Subject: Re: [ LUGOS ] se KDE 1.1 >Andrej Kolmanič wrote: >> >> ja, sej sem naredil tako, pa mi ne dela >> >> SHadowX wrote: >> >> > On Tue, 09 Feb 1999, you wrote: >> > >zanima me zakaj moram ce hocem zagnat kde najprej zagnat startx in sele >> > >ko se mi nalozi wmaker, v xtermu zazenem kde? >> > > Andrej >> > to je pa nek nov pristop k stvari. >> > Kolikor jaz vem se KDE zazene tako, da v .xinitrc napises startkde in ko >> > napises startx se direktno starta KDE. > >v fajl ~/.Xclients ali /etc/X11/xinit/Xclients dodaj vrstico >/opt/kde/bin/startkde (oz. kjer se startkde pri tebi pac nahaja). >-- >Grega > >http://www.kiss.uni-lj.si/~k4mf0026/index.html > > > From snowman na hal9000.medinet.si Sat Feb 8 23:13:02 1997 From: snowman na hal9000.medinet.si (Alen Salamun) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:39:49 2004 Subject: Wolfram Research & Linux References: <199702070553.GAA18543@ro.zrsss.si> Message-ID: On Fri, 7 Feb 1997, Zlatko Rek wrote: > Zdravo, > > V februarskem Linux Journal-u pise, da pri Wolfram Research kot > razvojno platformo za Mathematico uporabljajo Linux... > Potem pa v Monitorju preberes oceno "strokovnjaka" za operacijske > sisteme za PC-je, da Linux nima prihodnosti...!? > > Lep pozdrav. Hi! Odlocno protestiram proti taksin "strokovnjakom"....Zgleda da je Mirkosoft :) dobesedno podkupil vse nase revije oz. skoraj vse... Saj ko beres novice bidis samo mirkosoft ono, mirkosoft tisto, mirkosoft levo, desno....Office 97 je tha best...etc....TO SUX!!!!! Sicer pa ce bi meni en stulek rekel na lahko mas vso mirkosoft programje zastojn ce bos lepo ocenil stvar (in mislim da je tako) bi jaz tudi tako napisal:)) LP, Alen P.S: Mirkosoft -=> G a R b A g E S o F t | Alen Salamun | EMAIL: snowman@hal9000.medinet.si | | -= LiNUX User = | WWW: http://www.medinet.si | | -= The only REAL OS =- | From jack na ro.zrsss.si Tue Feb 18 13:30:04 1997 From: jack na ro.zrsss.si (Jaka Mele) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:40:02 2004 Subject: Sort za polje struktur References: <33099DF3.2EE@tyr.fe.uni-lj.si> Message-ID: On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, Andrej Cedilnik wrote: > Heja! > en c-jevski problem: > sedaj pa nekaj nafila to z elementi in rad bi to sorteral po kodi. > Kakšna ideja? Prosim ce se ne oddaljujete prevec od rdece niti LINUXa... Replayi na tole upam da bodo sli po emailu mimo liste. bye, Jack Jaka Mele | jaka.mele@arnes.si | Those who do not understand Unix ARNES, Jamova 39 | Tel: +386 61 125-1515 | are condemned to reinvent it, SI-1000 Ljubljana | Fax: +386 61 125-5454 | poorly. Member of Linux User Group Of Slovenia http://www.zrsss.si/~lugos/ From miha.tomsic na fmf.uni-lj.si Sun Feb 9 09:15:02 1997 From: miha.tomsic na fmf.uni-lj.si (Miha Tomsic Mike) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:40:34 2004 Subject: HTML References: <> Message-ID: <> Hojla! On Fri, 7 Feb 1997, Samuel Gabor wrote: > Pozna kdo kak dober HTML urejevalnik za Linux? (Pa ne "vi". :>) Pri > Sausage Software so nekaj obljubljali HotDog/Unix, ostali pa so pri > Windows druzini. Za predelovanje LUGOS strani sem uporabljal asWedit. Ni bog-ve-kaj, ampak vseeno pospesi pisanje... Ima par pomankljivosti (tista verzija, ki sem jo imel, ni poznala vseh html3 ukazov in Netscape razsiritev... )... Bye, Mike... - Miha Tomsic Mike -- C. na postajo 55 -- 1351 Brezovica pri Lj. -- SLOVENIA - - home-made -- electronics -- music -- industrial -- physics -- net -- linux - - phylosophy -- poetry -- arts ---- Lower Parts of Abdomen ---- Josef Banale - From casar na uni-mb.si Tue Feb 18 14:32:31 1997 From: casar na uni-mb.si (Ales Casar) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:40:45 2004 Subject: Linux in Cyrix 686 procesorji References: <33097C32.E86E4E9@fcc.si> Message-ID: On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, David Klasinc wrote: > > Kolega pravi, da ima 133 MHz K5 (AMD) in da mu dela vse v redu in opazno > > hitreje kot z 100 MHz 486/DX4. Osebnih izkusenj z ne-Inteli pa nimam. > Cudno v sluzbi sem linux poganjal kar nekac casa na 133MHz AMDju pa > nisem opazil bixstvenih razlik... Je malenkost hitrejsi kod Intel DX4 > 100MHz... Jaz osebno ne zamenjam Intela... :) Dobro, torej si tudi ti opazil, da deluje hitreje. To samo potrjuje moje (kolegove) besede. Ales -- Ales Casar | InterNet: Casar@uni-mb.si, A.Casar@ieee.org, Faculty of EE & CS | A.Casar@s-gms.ms.edus.si University of Maribor | DECnet: RCUM::ALES SLOVENIA | WWW: http://www.el.feri.uni-mb.si/~ales/ From andrej.bagon na guest.arnes.si Fri Feb 7 16:45:38 1997 From: andrej.bagon na guest.arnes.si (Andrej Bagon) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:41:13 2004 Subject: Caldera openDOS References: <01IF4QJDSDKIC50DZ1@rzs-hm.si> Message-ID: <> Pozdravljeni Maillista je za linux sam mislim, da sem ter tja kdo uporablja tudi DOS... check out http://www.caldera.com/ OpenDOS™: * A genuine DOS * A ROMmable DOS - designed from the start to execute out of ROM or RAM * Fully featured - A comprehensive DOS utility set * Complete with extensions - including drivers for CD-ROMs, etc. * Genuine multi-tasking, with API for developers * Includes 286 DPMS memory manager in addition to DPMI * Comprehensive Networking Client solution, Netware 3.X, 4.X and Personal NetWare * Includes PC-based Personal NetWare Server * Includes defacto disk compression - STAC * Complete with new Advanced NetWars 2.0 network game meni tale DOS kar lepo deluje. In kar mi je najbolj pri srcu je tist multitasking, ki je kar lusno izveden. Andrej -- _____________________________________________________________________ | Andrej Bagon | e-mail: andrej.bagon@guest.arnes.si or | andrej.bagon@helij.s-tsc.ng.edus.si | Home Page: http://helij.s-tsc.ng.edus.si/~xopy/index.html | Linux user: http://www.linux.org/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- From gody na elgo.si Tue Feb 18 14:43:41 1997 From: gody na elgo.si (Matjaz Godec) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:41:26 2004 Subject: LINUX TRI CD - spisek narocil References: Message-ID: On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, Jaka Mele wrote: > > Uh :) Jaz imam do sedaj kar ok izkusnje. Ko sem kupoval se direkt od > InfoMagica, je trajalo od 5 (rekord) do 16 dni. Linux Bible od Yggdrasila > pa se je izgubil na posti, pol ko sem jih cez 2 meseca napizdil pa so mi > poslali po UPSu in je prislo v 3. (treh) dneh. :) Ocitno vse skupaj ful > varira. > > bye, Jack Jack, ce imas moznost izbire, ti v vsakem primeru priporocam UPS ! Nikar Federal Express, oni so tisti, ki zadeve posiljajo v Rusijo in podobno. DHL je se kar, ampak nekoliko pocasnejsi od UPS. Moje izkusnje so: UPS: 3-6 dni DHL: 7-14 dni F.E.: 3-6 mesecev :(( Cena za zgornja dva je slicna. gody ___________________________________________________________________________ Matjaz Godec | "ELGO" Maribor d.o.o. | Electronics matjaz.godec@elgo.si | Ul. Josipa Priola 35 | Telecommunications tel/fax:+ 386 62 24 460 | SI 2ooo Maribor, Slovenija | CALDERA-LINUX http://www.elgo.si/ | Slovenian network "SloN" | Internet consultant From gody na elgo.si Sun Feb 9 14:53:36 1997 From: gody na elgo.si (Matjaz Godec) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:41:54 2004 Subject: Netscape FastTrack Server for OpenLinux (fwd) References: <> Message-ID: Na ve, ce naj take objave forwardam na listo, ampak se mi zdi da bi tale novica lahko bila interesantna za uporabnike Linuxa, ki uporalbjajo Linux za internet server. gody ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 17:10:15 -0700 (MST) From: Caldera Information To: Caldera User's Email List Subject: Netscape FastTrack Server for OpenLinux CALDERA TO PROVIDE NETSCAPE FASTRACK SERVER AND NETSCAPE NAVIGATOR GOLD IN OPENLINUX Caldera brings Netscape's Leading Client and Server Software to Users of Linux Technologies Provo, UT - February 7, 1997 - Caldera Inc. today announced that it will port Netscape(R) Fastrack Server software and Netscape(R) Navigator Gold client software to OpenLinux Standard. Caldera is porting the secure, commercial web-server to OpenLinux Standard for release in April. OpenLinux Standard is the upgrade to Caldera Network Desktop (CND) and the next release in Caldera's OpenLinux three-tier product strategy that glues and extends existing networks. Both Netscape Navigator Gold and the Netscape Fastrack Server for OpenLinux are expected to be made available as standalone products to users of Linux technologies in April. "Caldera provides solutions that glue and extend network systems to the Internet," said Bryan Sparks, president and CEO of Caldera. "The combination of Netscape Fastrack Server and Netscape Navigator Gold in OpenLinux provides a whole new group of users with easy-to-use tools for creating content in HTML and running personal, workgroup or corporate web sites," said Srivats Sampath, vice president of server marketing at Netscape Communications Corporation. Caldera, Inc. designs, develops and markets a line of full-featured, economical system software that connects existing systems like NetWare(R), Windows(R) NT, Sun(R) Solaris(TM) and SCO(R) UNIX(R) with each other and the Internet. Caldera uses its own technological and marketing resources to leverage technologies including the Linux operating system created by independent developers worldwide, and the OpenDOS product range. Visit the Caldera web site at http://www.caldera.com/. For orders and information call (800) 850-7779 in the US or +44 (0) 1923 208440 internationally. - end - Caldera is a registered trademark in the United States and other countries. OpenLinux, OpenDOS, Caldera Network Desktop, Caldera Solutions CD and NetGlue are all trademarks or registered trademarks of Caldera Inc. Netscape is a trademark of Netscape Communications Corporation which is registered in the United States and other countries. The Netscape Corporation Logo and Netscape products are trademarks of Netscape Communications Corporation. All other products, services, companies and publications are trademarks or registered trademarks of their respective holders. Caldera Press Contact: Nancy Pomeroy nancy.pomeroy@caldera.com Tel: (801) 377-7687 ext. 206 Fax: (801) 377-8752 From cic na latefibm1.fs.uni-lj.si Tue Feb 18 15:33:19 1997 From: cic na latefibm1.fs.uni-lj.si (Timotej Ecimovic - Cic) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:42:09 2004 Subject: Sort za polje struktur References: <33099DF3.2EE@tyr.fe.uni-lj.si> Message-ID: > Heja! > > en c-jevski problem: > > Imam naslednjo strukturo: > > typedef struct { > char koda[10]; > char text[100]; > } ELEMENT > > ELEMENT el[100]; > > sedaj pa nekaj nafila to z elementi in rad bi to sorteral po kodi. > > > Kakšna ideja? > Napis: man qsort in preberi tisto. Za qsort() funkcijo moras samo izumiti compare() funkcijo, ki vrne -1, 0 ali 1 (tako kot strcmp), ki jo podas qsortu... Ce pa delas zadevo za vojsko, in bi v primeru napake zacel jedrsko vojno, se pa raje vzdrzim odgovora. :) Cic From Casar na uni-mb.si Sat Feb 1 00:30:57 1997 From: Casar na uni-mb.si (Ales Casar) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:42:18 2004 Subject: PPP References: Message-ID: On Fri, 31 Jan 1997, Marko Luksa wrote: > zanimiva ideja. za povezavo se uporablja telnet. Torej iz tega po tvojem > mnenju sledi, da se 0x8d znak ne prenasa preko linije in povroca Ne, to ravno ne sledi, ampak obstaja le sum, da bi se temu karakterju lahko kaj zatikalo na poti. Za natancne podatke o prepustnosti povezave bi le to moral s cim preveriti, npr. z linecheck-om. Seveda je pa tudi sum dovolj, da poskusis PPP brez tega znaka. Morda bo pa delalo. > zamrznitve.Problem je sedaj, kako pppd-ju dopovedati, da naj tega znaka ne > posilja (kot jaz vem, lahko pppd-ju s pomocjo asyncmapa izkljucis le znake > med desetisko 1 in 32 (oz. nekje okoli 32). Tista escape pa > mislim, da ne dela na pppd. Dela, dela. Tudi sam to uporabljam. V /etc/ppp/options (ali kaksno drugo primerno mesto) dodaj kar tole vrstico: escape 8d Ales -- Ales Casar | InterNet: Casar@uni-mb.si, A.Casar@ieee.org, Faculty of EE & CS | A.Casar@s-gms.ms.edus.si University of Maribor | DECnet: RCUM::ALES SLOVENIA | WWW: http://www.el.feri.uni-mb.si/~ales/ From andrejc na tyr.fe.uni-lj.si Sun Feb 9 19:05:05 1997 From: andrejc na tyr.fe.uni-lj.si (Andrej Cedilnik) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:42:37 2004 Subject: Wolfram Research & Linux References: Message-ID: <32FE11D1.7DF9@tyr.fe.uni-lj.si> > Odlocno protestiram proti taksin "strokovnjakom"....Zgleda da je > Mirkosoft :) dobesedno podkupil vse nase revije oz. skoraj vse... > Saj ko beres novice bidis samo mirkosoft ono, mirkosoft tisto, mirkosoft > levo, desno....Office 97 je tha best...etc....TO SUX!!!!! Sicer pa ce bi > meni en stulek rekel na lahko mas vso mirkosoft programje zastojn ce bos > lepo ocenil stvar (in mislim da je tako) bi jaz tudi tako napisal:)) Heja! Mislim da vsi malce pretiravate! Se strinjam, Linux ima prihodnost pa še kakšno ampak kaj moreš če pa skoraj nobeno podjetje ne služi z njim. Za win vsi izdelujejo software, za Linux se moraš pa zelo potruditi. Meni recimo še vedno ni uspelo najti enega pametnega driverja za mojo grafično kartico ali pa recimo kakšen X oriented POV RAY... Andy -- * / * andrejc@tyr.fe.uni-lj.si /-\ | | |-\ \ / \|/ http://vector.nevtron.si/andy | | |\ | | | \/ \--*--\ +-+ | \| | | / /|\ "Gabber is the only drug!" | | | | |-/ / * / * "Let's get drugged!!" From cic na latefibm1.fs.uni-lj.si Tue Feb 18 15:40:49 1997 From: cic na latefibm1.fs.uni-lj.si (Timotej Ecimovic) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:42:51 2004 Subject: LILO + DOS References: <> Message-ID: <199702181440.PAA13335@latefibm1.fs.uni-lj.si> Hiya! Vceraj sem v PCa vtikal en predpotopni 120 Mb disk kot drugi disk (vse skupi je se IDE), gor pa je bil bootabilen DOS (butal se je na eni drugi masini kot prvi disk). Po nekaj urah sem obupal in obstal z naslednjimi vprasanji, za katera upam, da bo kdo vedel odgovor: A LILO zna bootat DOS iz drugega diska? A po tem, ko LILO to zna, ce zna, DOS zna samega sebe do konca zbutati iz tega drugega diska? Kako? Kakorkoli sem nastavljal zadevo, sem dobil message Non-system disk ali nekaj takega od DOSa. Sumim, da je LILO zbutal DOS, potem pa je DOS znorel naprej. Cic From snowman na hal9000.medinet.si Sat Feb 1 12:11:25 1997 From: snowman na hal9000.medinet.si (Alen Salamun) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:43:01 2004 Subject: USR externi modemi References: <> Message-ID: Hi! En vprasanje...Zakaj se mi na Sportsterju 33.6 VOICE (EXT) vedno znova spremeni glasnost, ko se modem resetira??? Ko z potenciometrom spreminjam glasnost ta pol ostane enaka samo za ta klic, cim odlozi slusalko in spet dvigne vec ni ta nastavljena glasnost...Kolikor jaz vem je na prejsnjih sportsterjih glasnost ostala tako kot je potenciometer...Je kaksni ukaz za to ali kaj??? LP, Alen | Alen Salamun | EMAIL: snowman@hal9000.medinet.si | | -= LiNUX User = | WWW: http://www.medinet.si | | -= The only REAL OS =- | From david.klasinc na fcc.si Sun Feb 9 19:18:03 1997 From: david.klasinc na fcc.si (David Klasinc) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:43:21 2004 Subject: Wolfram Research & Linux References: Message-ID: <32FE14DB.4B05A326@fcc.si> Andrej Cedilnik wrote: > Mislim da vsi malce pretiravate! > > Se strinjam, Linux ima prihodnost pa še kakšno ampak kaj moreš če pa > skoraj nobeno podjetje ne služi z njim. Za win vsi izdelujejo software, Novell? Caldera? > za Linux se moraš pa zelo potruditi. Meni recimo še vedno ni uspelo > najti enega pametnega driverja za mojo grafično kartico ali pa recimo Kaksno kartico pa imas? Vsaj v slackware 3.1 se mi zdi da je vec kot 200 graficnih kartic na izbiro v xfconfig pa se od teh je nekaj 'generic' zadev... David! From metod.kozelj na rzs-hm.si Tue Feb 18 16:09:53 1997 From: metod.kozelj na rzs-hm.si (Metod Kozelj) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:43:33 2004 Subject: LILO + DOS References: <> Message-ID: <> Howdy! > Vceraj sem v PCa vtikal en predpotopni 120 Mb disk kot > drugi disk (vse skupi je se IDE), gor pa je bil bootabilen > DOS (butal se je na eni drugi masini kot prvi disk). > > Po nekaj urah sem obupal in obstal z naslednjimi vprasanji, > za katera upam, da bo kdo vedel odgovor: > > A LILO zna bootat DOS iz drugega diska? > A po tem, ko LILO to zna, ce zna, DOS zna samega sebe > do konca zbutati iz tega drugega diska? > Kako? Kolikor jaz vem, BIOS *vedno* vzame prvi fizicni {MFM, RLL, (E)IDE} disk za drive 0x80. DOS pogleda na disku 0x80, ce obstaja primarna particija ustreznega tipa (12bit, 16bit < 32M, 16bit > 32M) in jo proglasi za C:. Ce take particije ni, mu ni nic jasno. Se pravi, da bos bolj tezko naredil bootable DOS na drugem disku. Peace! Mkx From andrejc na tyr.fe.uni-lj.si Sat Feb 1 12:21:52 1997 From: andrejc na tyr.fe.uni-lj.si (Andrej Cedilnik) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:43:42 2004 Subject: Soud-disastre AWE 32 in Linux References: <> Message-ID: <32F32750.3090@tyr.fe.uni-lj.si> A ima kdo kakšno idejo za tole? Ko zalaufam mašino in bootam linux mi resetera AWE in da line-in na maximum, tako da če poslušam kakšno glasbo zraven se mi začne dret skozi tamale zvočnike. Menda se da to v kernel source nastaviti... Če ima kdo kakšno idejo. Vključeno imam takole: Ojačevalec line-out -> AWE line-in Ojačevalec line-in <- AWe line-out Aja pa še ali je komu ratalo awe driverje inštalirat pod linuxom? Andy -- * / * andrejc@tyr.fe.uni-lj.si /-\ | | |-\ \ / \|/ http://vector.nevtron.si/andy | | |\ | | | \/ \--*--\ +-+ | \| | | / /|\ "Gabber is the only drug!" | | | | |-/ / * / * "Let's get drugged!!" From peterlin na biofiz.mf.uni-lj.si Sun Feb 9 19:30:35 1997 From: peterlin na biofiz.mf.uni-lj.si (Primoz Peterlin) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:44:06 2004 Subject: Slovenski HOWTO, predlog dopolnitev References: <32FE11D1.7DF9@tyr.fe.uni-lj.si> Message-ID: Zdravo -- V kratkem bi rad poslal Gregu Hankinsu obnovljeno verzijo slovenskega HOWTO. Okvirni pregled dopolnitev je zaenkrat naslednji: 4. poglavje (,,Drugi programi``): - nekaj vec o prilagoditvi emacsa - dodan razdelek o crkovalniku ispell in slovenskem besediscu zanj 7. poglavje (,,Linux v Sloveniji``): - dodatki v razdelku ,,Strezniki FTP`` - dodan razdelek o zastopnikih Linuxa v Sloveniji Ce ima kdo se kaksno misel, kaj bi sodilo zraven, bi prosil, da izkoristi priloznost in jo napise. Lep pozdrav, Primoz -- Primoz Peterlin (peterlin@biofiz.mf.uni-lj.si) Fax:+386-61-131-5127 Institut za biofiziko MF, Lipiceva 2, SLO-1105 Ljubljana, Slovenija WWW page: http://sizif.mf.uni-lj.si/~peterlin/ From metod.kozelj na rzs-hm.si Tue Feb 18 16:16:40 1997 From: metod.kozelj na rzs-hm.si (Metod Kozelj) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:44:20 2004 Subject: Linux in Cyrix 686 procesorji References: <> Message-ID: <> Howdy! > > Ce koga zanimajo se kaksne stevilke, jih imam nekaj zbranih na > > > > http://www.rzs-hm.si/people/Metod.Kozelj/bench.html > > Zanimivo! In kje bi se dalo dobiti source za te teste, da clovek se sam > poskusi na kako hitrih masinah dela? Poglej na http://www.rzs-hm.si/people/Metod.Kozelj/src/ testi.tar.gz vsebuje sorce in prevedene programe za DOS, README pa nekaj malega napotkov. > Na zgoraj omenjeni WWW strani je tudi link na "navadno verzijo", ki ne > dela. Ja vem. V bistvu bom ta link ukinil, se mi ne da delat dveh verzij. Ali pa ne, kaj vem. Eno shell skripto bi moral malo dodelat. Ce se mi bo dalo ... in ce bo interes. Peace! Mkx From metod.kozelj na rzs-hm.si Sat Feb 1 15:05:48 1997 From: metod.kozelj na rzs-hm.si (Metod Kozelj) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:44:29 2004 Subject: USR externi modemi References: <> Message-ID: <> Howdy! > En vprasanje...Zakaj se mi na Sportsterju 33.6 VOICE (EXT) vedno znova > spremeni glasnost, ko se modem resetira??? Tega sicer en vem, ampak vem pa, da to ni edina napaka teh modemov. Ena bolj resna: ko modemu posljes 'ATZ' in se modem torej resetira, pozabi tudi, s kaksno hitrostjo naj bi se menil z racunalnikom. Postavi se na 38400. Ce npr. zelis tak modem uporabljat kot dial-in modem, moras po resetu modemu se kaj poslat (recimo 'ATI4'), da se zopet postavi na pravo hitrost (recimo na 115200). Sicer bo racunalnik namesto 'RING'ov dobil smeti ... Peace! Mkx -- Metod Kozelj e-mail: Metod.Kozelj@rzs-hm.si WWW: http://www.rzs-hm.si/people/Metod.Kozelj/ From milan na kihp6.ki.si Sun Feb 9 20:56:13 1997 From: milan na kihp6.ki.si (Milan Hodoscek) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:44:51 2004 Subject: Wolfram Research & Linux References: Message-ID: <199702091956.UAA08222@hp11.ki.si> >>>>> "Andrej" == Andrej Cedilnik writes: Andrej> enega pametnega driverja za mojo grafi=E8no kartico ali pa Andrej> recimo kak=B9en X oriented POV RAY... kaj pa debian/development/binary-i386/graphics/povray_3.0.10-2.deb ? From cic na latefibm1.fs.uni-lj.si Tue Feb 18 16:36:06 1997 From: cic na latefibm1.fs.uni-lj.si (Timotej Ecimovic) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:45:03 2004 Subject: LILO + DOS References: <> Message-ID: <199702181536.QAA21584@latefibm1.fs.uni-lj.si> > > Kolikor jaz vem, BIOS *vedno* vzame prvi fizicni {MFM, RLL, (E)IDE} > disk za drive 0x80. DOS pogleda na disku 0x80, ce obstaja primarna > particija ustreznega tipa (12bit, 16bit < 32M, 16bit > 32M) in jo > proglasi za C:. Ce take particije ni, mu ni nic jasno. > > Se pravi, da bos bolj tezko naredil bootable DOS na drugem disku. > Hudirja, kaksn glupi sistem! A ce pa recimo swap particijo od Linuxa (/dev/hda2) proglasim za DOS, jo nardim butabilno, bi se pol znou zbutat DOS iz tistga dol? Al mora bit slucajno prou taprva particija na prvem disku? Cic From dusan.matic na guest.arnes.si Sat Feb 1 17:58:14 1997 From: dusan.matic na guest.arnes.si (Dusan Matic) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:45:13 2004 Subject: USR Sportster 33.6 Voice & Linux References: <> Message-ID: <> Ziv ! Imam sledec problem ... opazil sem, da mi pod Win95 izdatno hitreje deluje WWW kot pa pod Netscapeom pod Linuxom ... Recimo .. Netscape potrebuje ful velik casa, da nalozi njihov homepage, kar za Netscape pod Win 95 ne morem trdit .. prenos pod win95 je skoraj vedno nad 2k/sek, pride pa tud do 3k/sek ... Je imel kdo ze kaksne podobne probleme ? Aja ... ifconfig mi pokaze kr lepo stevilo napak med prenos .. zato je seveda prenos tako pocasen, ker modem zmanjsuje hitrost ... Drugace pa irc, telnet in ftp v konzoli deluje cist normalno ... ce neki ftpjam v konzoli je prenost cist zadovljiv > 2k/sek ... indy From gody na elgo.si Sun Feb 9 21:57:12 1997 From: gody na elgo.si (Matjaz Godec) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:45:34 2004 Subject: Wolfram Research & Linux References: <32FE11D1.7DF9@tyr.fe.uni-lj.si> Message-ID: On Sun, 9 Feb 1997, Andrej Cedilnik wrote: > Mislim da vsi malce pretiravate! Ja, bi se lahko reklo :)) > > Se strinjam, Linux ima prihodnost pa še kakšno ampak kaj moreš če pa > skoraj nobeno podjetje ne služi z njim. Za win vsi izdelujejo software, > za Linux se moraš pa zelo potruditi. Meni recimo še vedno ni uspelo > najti enega pametnega driverja za mojo grafično kartico ali pa recimo > kakšen X oriented POV RAY... Kaksno graficno kartico imas ? A mislis click & point manipulator za vhodne podatke ali pov ray. Kolikor vem povray3.0 dela v okolju X cisto OK in tudi za omenjene "editorje" se sem in tja slisi. Poglej v Graphics-HOWTO. ___________________________________________________________________________ Matjaz Godec | "ELGO" Maribor d.o.o. | Electronics matjaz.godec@elgo.si | Ul. Josipa Priola 35 | Telecommunications tel/fax:+ 386 62 24 460 | SI 2ooo Maribor, Slovenija | CALDERA-LINUX http://www.elgo.si/ | Slovenian network "SloN" | Internet consultant From milan.gabor na uni-mb.si Tue Feb 18 18:07:13 1997 From: milan.gabor na uni-mb.si (Milan Gabor) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:45:49 2004 Subject: Linux in Cyrix 686 procesorji References: <33087091.715B@eunet.si> Message-ID: Glede Cyrixa in Linuxa : Jaz mam Cyrixa 166+ in ce se ne motim vx chipset z 512 cacha. Dosedaj je vse laufalo brez problema, nikoli ni zamrznil, se obesil, ali kaj podobnega. Torej lahko priporocim Cyrixa. lp, MIlan ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////// //E-Mail: Milan.Gabor@uni-mb.si // //WWW : http://storm.uni-mb.si/docs/personal/milan // ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////// From uros.platise na fov.uni-mb.si Sun Feb 2 02:48:49 1997 From: uros.platise na fov.uni-mb.si (Uros Platise) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:45:58 2004 Subject: A komu dela to... References: <> Message-ID: <> Pozdrav Ghostview oz. kar gs dela kot naj bi, vendar pa imam neskoncne probleme z Acrobat Reader 3.0 za linux-a.. Namrec, ta zaklet softy generira tak ps filet, da ga ghostview ne prebavi in pravi: **************************************************** Error: /undefinedresource in true Operand stack: false --dict:4/4-- Execution stack: %interp_exit --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- false --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- false --nostringval-- --nostringval-- Dictionary stack: --dict:600/631-- --dict:0/20-- --dict:40/200-- --dict:51/75-- --dict:64/85-- --dict:12/12-- Current allocation mode is local Current file position is 10260 Aladdin Ghostscript: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1 Error: PostScript interpreter failed in main window. ***************************************************** Predvidevam, da daje ta hudic na izhod PS Layer 2. Oz. ne vem... Thanks in advance... LP uros From gody na elgo.si Sun Feb 9 22:03:13 1997 From: gody na elgo.si (Matjaz Godec) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:46:20 2004 Subject: Wolfram Research & Linux References: <32FE14DB.4B05A326@fcc.si> Message-ID: On Sun, 9 Feb 1997, David Klasinc wrote: > Andrej Cedilnik wrote: > > > Mislim da vsi malce pretiravate! > > > > Se strinjam, Linux ima prihodnost pa še kakšno ampak kaj moreš če pa > > skoraj nobeno podjetje ne služi z njim. Za win vsi izdelujejo software, > Novell? Caldera? Novell ne, Caldera pogojno. Tukaj gre za firme, ki prodajajo programe na operacijskem sistemu. S samim Linuxom trenutno sluzijo tisti, ki sestavljajo distribucije (RedHat, Caldera, LST, suse, ...), tisti ki printajo arhivske CDje in javne distribucije (Infomagic ...). Druga vrsta zasluzka je pri programju za sistemsko podporo predvsem tu mislim na Metrolink in X-inside. Trenutno pa je v divjem vzponu podrocje uporabniske programske opreme. Baze podatkov in ostali serversko orientirani programi. Mislim, da nas v naslednjih dveh letih caka se veliko programske opreme za desktop. V Sloveniji se sicer Linux kar precej uporablja ampak prav sluziti se pa z njim se ne da. Mogoce, ko prezivimo ze kar standarden inkubacijski cas (cca 5 let za svetom). gody ___________________________________________________________________________ Matjaz Godec | "ELGO" Maribor d.o.o. | Electronics matjaz.godec@elgo.si | Ul. Josipa Priola 35 | Telecommunications tel/fax:+ 386 62 24 460 | SI 2ooo Maribor, Slovenija | CALDERA-LINUX http://www.elgo.si/ | Slovenian network "SloN" | Internet consultant From metod.kozelj na rzs-hm.si Tue Feb 18 17:19:28 1997 From: metod.kozelj na rzs-hm.si (Metod Kozelj) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:46:33 2004 Subject: LILO + DOS References: <> Message-ID: <> > > Kolikor jaz vem, BIOS *vedno* vzame prvi fizicni {MFM, RLL, (E)IDE} > > disk za drive 0x80. DOS pogleda na disku 0x80, ce obstaja primarna > > particija ustreznega tipa (12bit, 16bit < 32M, 16bit > 32M) in jo > > proglasi za C:. Ce take particije ni, mu ni nic jasno. > > > > Se pravi, da bos bolj tezko naredil bootable DOS na drugem disku. > > > Hudirja, kaksn glupi sistem! Ja, hudirja, a tega do sedaj se nisi ugotovil? :-) > A ce pa recimo swap particijo od Linuxa (/dev/hda2) proglasim za DOS, > jo nardim butabilno, bi se pol znou zbutat DOS iz tistga dol? > Al mora bit slucajno prou taprva particija na prvem disku? Znalo bi delat. Poizkusi in porocaj. Peace! Mkx From metod.kozelj na rzs-hm.si Sun Feb 2 11:14:16 1997 From: metod.kozelj na rzs-hm.si (Metod Kozelj) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:46:43 2004 Subject: A komu dela to... References: <> Message-ID: <> Howdy! > Ghostview oz. kar gs dela kot naj bi, vendar pa imam > neskoncne probleme z Acrobat Reader 3.0 za linux-a.. > > Namrec, ta zaklet softy generira tak ps filet, da ga > ghostview ne prebavi in pravi: [ gs errors snipped ] > Predvidevam, da daje ta hudic na izhod PS Layer 2. > Oz. ne vem... Hja, v moji verziji acroreada lahko v oknu z izbirami za tiskanje nastavim tudi tip PS, ki ga generira (Level 1, Level 2). Je pa res, da se v obeh priemrih gs enako pritozi. Ce pa isti fajl posljem 'native speakerju' HP LJ4MV, pa ta rezulat izpljune brez tezav. Ne glede na to, ali je bil izbran Level 1 ali Level 2. Ocitno gs ni cisto brez napak. Ravno danes sem nasel se eno. V LaTeX dokumentu imam kar nekja enacb, v katerih nastopa tudi kvadratni koren (sqrt). Na nekaterih straneh ga gs narise pravilno, na eni strani (v vecih inkarnacijah na isti strani) pa korenu manjka levi del, torej narise le crto nad izrazom s kratkim repkom spredaj. Torej namesto priblizno takole ------- / - / sin(x) \/ mi narise nekaj takega ------- / sin(x) in to ne glede na to, ali tiskam na tiskalnik (HP LJ5L) ali pa gledam na zaslonu (bodisi direktno z gs ali pa z ghosview-om). Peace! Mkx -- Metod Kozelj e-mail: Metod.Kozelj@rzs-hm.si WWW: http://www.rzs-hm.si/people/Metod.Kozelj/ From rek na leila.ijs.si Mon Feb 3 06:47:19 1997 From: rek na leila.ijs.si (Zlatko Rek) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:47:30 2004 Subject: A komu dela to... References: <32F3F281.2CC20A3A@fov.uni-mb.si> Message-ID: <199702030547.GAA30155@ro.zrsss.si> Zdravo, > Ghostview oz. kar gs dela kot naj bi, vendar pa imam > neskoncne probleme z 3.0 za linux-a.. > > Namrec, ta zaklet softy generira tak ps filet, da ga > ghostview ne prebavi in pravi: Zakaj pa uporabljas Acrobat Reader? gs (Aladdin Ghostscript 4.03) zna prebaviti tudi PDF input format! Lep pozdrav. Zlatko ______________________________________________________________________________ Dr. Zlatko Rek | Phone:+386 61 177 3746 Jozef Stefan Institute | +386 61 177 3900 National Supercomputing Centre | Fax: +386 61 219 385 Jamova 39, P.O.BOX 300 | E-mail:zlatko.rek@nsc.ijs.si SI-1001 Ljubljana, SLOVENIA | http://www2.ijs.si/~rek/ ______________________________________________________________________________ From gody na elgo.si Sun Feb 9 22:06:46 1997 From: gody na elgo.si (Matjaz Godec) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:47:52 2004 Subject: Slovenski HOWTO, predlog dopolnitev References: Message-ID: On Sun, 9 Feb 1997, Primoz Peterlin wrote: > Ce ima kdo se kaksno misel, kaj bi sodilo zraven, bi prosil, da izkoristi > priloznost in jo napise. > Jaz bi bil zelo vesel, ce bi se dalo bolj podrobno opisati aktiviranje fontov pod X streznikom. Ce sledimo HOWTO je sicer OK, samo na primer v xtermu in drugih programih se vedno ni sumnikov etc. (Mislim da je za to treba ali spremeniti X - resource ali pa narediti nov map file (font.aliases ali nekaj podobnega), da postanejo latin2 fonti privzeti. > Lep pozdrav, Primoz > > -- gody ___________________________________________________________________________ Matjaz Godec | "ELGO" Maribor d.o.o. | Electronics matjaz.godec@elgo.si | Ul. Josipa Priola 35 | Telecommunications tel/fax:+ 386 62 24 460 | SI 2ooo Maribor, Slovenija | CALDERA-LINUX http://www.elgo.si/ | Slovenian network "SloN" | Internet consultant From klasinc na sk-pttsc.lj.edus.si Tue Feb 18 20:02:08 1997 From: klasinc na sk-pttsc.lj.edus.si (David Klasinc) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:48:06 2004 Subject: LILO + DOS References: <199702181536.QAA21584@latefibm1.fs.uni-lj.si> Message-ID: Banzai! Guys... Tkole treba narest... # setup ;> in potem nastavis lilo na MBR in mu poves da imas /dev/hda linux in /dev/hdc dos disk (ali karkoli imas ze za dos disk) potem bi zadeve morale delat... ce ne dela v dosu poglej ce je particija aktivna in ce je sploh gor sistem.... ;) Nevem v cem je problem? Stvar cisto preprosta, ker bios ne pogleda ce je gor prava particija, najprej se poskusa zagnat tisto kar je v MBR in ce je tam lilo se pozene lilo.. sicer pa zdaj sploh vec ne vem za kaj se je slo.. :)) David! From uros.platise na fov.uni-mb.si Mon Feb 3 08:29:07 1997 From: uros.platise na fov.uni-mb.si (Uros Platise) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:48:15 2004 Subject: A komu dela to... References: <> Message-ID: <> > Zakaj pa uporabljas Acrobat Reader? gs (Aladdin Ghostscript 4.03) zna > prebaviti tudi PDF input format! > A zna prebaviti tudi PS Layer 2 ?? LP uros From Dragan.Nedeljkovic na kiss.uni-lj.si Sun Feb 9 19:39:16 1997 From: Dragan.Nedeljkovic na kiss.uni-lj.si (Dragan Nedeljkovic) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:48:38 2004 Subject: Caldera openDOS References: <01IF4QJDSDKIC50DZ1@rzs-hm.si> Message-ID: <32FE19D4.5427@kiss.uni-lj.si> -- Andrej Bagon wrote: > > Pozdravljeni > > Maillista je za linux sam mislim, da sem ter tja > kdo uporablja tudi DOS... > > meni tale DOS kar lepo deluje. In kar mi je najbolj > pri srcu je tist multitasking, ki je kar lusno izveden. > Sem nekaj slisal o stvari, pa se nisem sprobal. Zanima me ce stari dos programi tecejo pod tem openDOS-om, ali je to bolj v smislu "it looks like dos, but it's not dos". Zanimivo bi bilo sprobati kaksen malo bolj zahteven DOS program. Kaksen game, npr. Dooma za DOS, ki tece v dos protected mode-u (vsaj mislim, da se mu tako rece), ce to laufa... Pa kam ga instaliras, ali rabi svojo particijo (po moznosti FAT), ali lahko na linux particijo, pa bere potem z mount-ane FAT particije, ali sploh ne rabi nobenega FAT-a? LP, Dragan -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2i mQCNAzLd16wAAAEEALrdF8SU/r71/47hcdlahKeqA74OmLrIGWsi+dFNCWcogZNQ tFKZLZWtekITpj/G/yBp0u6hjgBx0GyN+H4KY9ui7Wo+0abJOY1WVs88YU8TNoDv yIT6NUDx3qteInt0Kn2yLmUodCgImreCKYq1nlbLQ4AB48DLPr1VMQbYgaLpAAUR tDZEcmFnYW4gTmVkZWxqa292aWMgPERyYWdhbi5OZWRlbGprb3ZpY0BraXNzLnVu aS1sai5zaT4= =iPS5 -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From mare.lipovec na eunet.si Tue Feb 18 19:50:29 1997 From: mare.lipovec na eunet.si (Lipovec Marko) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:48:51 2004 Subject: LILO + DOS References: <01IFKDJLM8XU8WW0Y8@rzs-hm.si> Message-ID: <3309F9F5.5307@eunet.si> Metod Kozelj wrote: > > Howdy! > > > Vceraj sem v PCa vtikal en predpotopni 120 Mb disk kot > > drugi disk (vse skupi je se IDE), gor pa je bil bootabilen > > DOS (butal se je na eni drugi masini kot prvi disk). > > > > Po nekaj urah sem obupal in obstal z naslednjimi vprasanji, > > za katera upam, da bo kdo vedel odgovor: > > > > A LILO zna bootat DOS iz drugega diska? > > A po tem, ko LILO to zna, ce zna, DOS zna samega sebe > > do konca zbutati iz tega drugega diska? > > Kako? > > Kolikor jaz vem, BIOS *vedno* vzame prvi fizicni {MFM, RLL, (E)IDE} > disk za drive 0x80. DOS pogleda na disku 0x80, ce obstaja primarna > particija ustreznega tipa (12bit, 16bit < 32M, 16bit > 32M) in jo > proglasi za C:. Ce take particije ni, mu ni nic jasno. > > Se pravi, da bos bolj tezko naredil bootable DOS na drugem disku. > > Peace! > Mkx Hmm!!! mislim, da je resitev v programcku SYSTEM COMMNADER, ki zna bootati iz kateregakoli diska, katerekoli particije in kateregakoli MBR! Pa se...!! Ful dober program za Bootanje vecih sistemov na racunalniku! Tudi po tujih revijah je ocenjen kot najboljsi! Obsega tudi ogromno dodatnih funkcij in opcij, ter mnooogooo nastavitev. Po moje se da nastelati tudi, kako ti frizura stoji. Pa se en plus - Ce imas na enem disku vec Primarnih particij, jih vidimo vse! (Vsaj FAT particije) kot normalne diske v racunalniku! Pa srecno! Ciao, Mare mare.lipovec@eunet.si P.S. Hvala vsem za odgovore o kompatibilnih procesorjih! From rek na leila.ijs.si Mon Feb 3 07:58:01 1997 From: rek na leila.ijs.si (Zlatko Rek) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:49:02 2004 Subject: A komu dela to... References: <199702030729.HAA01761@medo.fov.uni-mb.si> Message-ID: <199702030658.HAA30800@ro.zrsss.si> > > Zakaj pa uporabljas Acrobat Reader? gs (Aladdin Ghostscript 4.03) zna > > prebaviti tudi PDF input format! > > > A zna prebaviti tudi PS Layer 2 ?? gs -help izpise: Aladdin Ghostscript 4.03 (1996-9-23) Copyright (C) 1996 Aladdin Enterprises, Menlo Park, CA. All rights reserved. Usage: gs [switches] [file1.ps file2.ps ...] Most frequently used switches: (you can use # in place of =) -dNOPAUSE no pause after page | -q `quiet', fewer messages -gx page size in pixels | -r pixels/inch resolution -sDEVICE= select device | -c quit (as the last switch) | exit after last file -sOutputFile= select output file: - for stdout, |command for pipe, embed %d or %ld for page # Input formats: PostScript PostScriptLevel1 PostScriptLevel2 PDF Available devices: x11 x11mono x11alpha x11cmyk lvga256 vgalib ap3250 appledmp bj10e bj200 bjc600 bjc800 cdeskjet cdjcolor cdjmono cdj500 cdj550 cp50 declj250 deskjet djet500 djet500c dnj650c epson eps9mid eps9high epsonc ibmpro imagen iwhi iwlo iwlq jetp3852 laserjet lbp8 lips3 lj250 ljet2p ljet3 ljet3d ljet4 lj4dith ljetplus lp2563 m8510 necp6 oce9050 paintjet pj pjetxl pjxl pjxl300 r4081 sj48 st800 stcolor t4693d2 t4693d4 t4693d8 tek4696 dfaxhigh dfaxlow faxg3 miff24 faxg32d faxg4 tiffcrle tiffg3 tiffg32d tiffg4 tiff12nc tiff24nc tifflzw tiffpack bit bitrgb bitcmyk bmpmono bmp16 bmp256 bmp16m cgmmono cgm8 cgm24 cif mgrmono mgrgray2 mgrgray4 mgrgray8 mgr4 mgr8 pcxmono pcxgray pcx16 pcx256 pcx24b pbm pbmraw pgm pgmraw pgnm pgnmraw pnm pnmraw ppm ppmraw psmono sgirgb pngmono pnggray png16 png256 png16m pdfwrite nullpage Search path: . : /usr/lib/ghostscript/4.03 : /usr/lib/ghostscript/fonts For more information, see /usr/doc/gs/use.txt. Report bugs to ghost@aladdin.com; use the form in new-user.txt. P.S.: To je Debian paket gs-aladdin.4.03-7! Lep pozdrav. Zlatko ______________________________________________________________________________ Dr. Zlatko Rek | Phone:+386 61 177 3746 Jozef Stefan Institute | +386 61 177 3900 National Supercomputing Centre | Fax: +386 61 219 385 Jamova 39, P.O.BOX 300 | E-mail:zlatko.rek@nsc.ijs.si SI-1001 Ljubljana, SLOVENIA | http://www2.ijs.si/~rek/ ______________________________________________________________________________ From gody na elgo.si Sun Feb 9 23:51:39 1997 From: gody na elgo.si (Matjaz Godec) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:49:23 2004 Subject: Caldera openDOS References: <32FE19D4.5427@kiss.uni-lj.si> Message-ID: On Sun, 9 Feb 1997, Dragan Nedeljkovic wrote: > -- Andrej Bagon wrote: > Sem nekaj slisal o stvari, pa se nisem sprobal. > > Zanima me ce stari dos programi tecejo pod tem openDOS-om, ali je > to bolj v smislu "it looks like dos, but it's not dos". > > Zanimivo bi bilo sprobati kaksen malo bolj zahteven DOS program. > Kaksen game, npr. Dooma za DOS, ki tece v dos protected mode-u > (vsaj mislim, da se mu tako rece), ce to laufa... > > Pa kam ga instaliras, ali rabi svojo particijo (po moznosti FAT), > ali lahko na linux particijo, pa bere potem z mount-ane FAT > particije, ali sploh ne rabi nobenega FAT-a? > > LP, Dragan > Caldera Open Dos 7.01 je odkupljeni Novellov DOS 7.01. Naj bi bil 100% kompatibilen z MS DOS in PC DOS ob dodatnih izboljsavah. Trenutno Caldera se ni dodajala kaksnih izboljsav ali kaj podobnega, ampak je samo spremenila (C) note v source in ostalih datotekah. Nekoliko so poskrbeli za integracijo v tej smeri, da so prilozili raje starejse in zanesljivejse verzije posameznih orodij, cetudi so ze obstajala novejsa. Caldera Open Dos vkljucuje tudi Personal Netware. Calderini ljudje obetajo, da bomo v novih verzijah COL produktov imeli integriran in v naprej zinstaliran/konfiguriran DOS EMU z omenjenim DOSom. Iz domacih logov: Trenutno se baje ne da igrati igrice DUKE na omenjenem Caldera Open DOSu, vendar je bil le ta pognan samo iz diskete. Ce je tema zanimiva tudi za to listo, prosim povejte svoje mnenje. gody ___________________________________________________________________________ Matjaz Godec | "ELGO" Maribor d.o.o. | Electronics matjaz.godec@elgo.si | Ul. Josipa Priola 35 | Telecommunications tel/fax:+ 386 62 24 460 | SI 2ooo Maribor, Slovenija | CALDERA-LINUX http://www.elgo.si/ | Slovenian network "SloN" | Internet consultant From miha.tomsic na fmf.uni-lj.si Tue Feb 18 19:56:29 1997 From: miha.tomsic na fmf.uni-lj.si (Miha Tomsic Mike) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:49:37 2004 Subject: Podpisi na notariatu References: <> Message-ID: <> Hojla! OK, folk, zdaj dogajamo... V ponedeljek sem nesel seznam na notariat (Trg republike 3, LJ). Jaz sem ze podpisal, zdaj pa lahko greste se ostali. Pri tajnici, ki ureja vse posle samo poveste, da ste prisli podpisat za drustvo LUGOS. Cena overovitve podpisa je 537 Sit. Kdo mora iti podpisat? Jaka Mele Dragan Nedeljkovic Matjaz Perme Primoz Peterlin Eduard Pohl Dusan Matic Matjaz Godec Edi Suc Jure Koren Zdaj pa kar brz... ;) Sestanek bo 6.3.'97 (drugih predlogov nisem dobil...). Bye, Mike... - Miha Tomsic Mike -- C. na postajo 55 -- 1351 Brezovica pri Lj. -- SLOVENIA - - home-made -- electronics -- music -- industrial -- physics -- net -- linux - - phylosophy -- poetry -- arts ---- Lower Parts of Abdomen ---- Josef Banale - From jack na ro.zrsss.si Mon Feb 10 09:03:39 1997 From: jack na ro.zrsss.si (Jaka Mele) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:50:10 2004 Subject: Xi in graf. kartice References: Message-ID: > On Sun, 9 Feb 1997, Andrej Cedilnik wrote: > > > > Se strinjam, Linux ima prihodnost pa še kakšno ampak kaj moreš če pa > > skoraj nobeno podjetje ne služi z njim. Za win vsi izdelujejo software, > > za Linux se moraš pa zelo potruditi. Meni recimo še vedno ni uspelo > > najti enega pametnega driverja za mojo grafično kartico ali pa recimo > > kakšen X oriented POV RAY... > Eto, dve muhi na en mah. Accelerated X je komercialni X server, ki podpira vec graficnih kartic, kot lahko sanjamo. Stvar stane okoli 100$, je pa zlata vredna. www.x-inside.com ... mislim pa da je svoje cajte imel to tudi Gody.. ? bye, Jack Jaka Mele | jaka.mele@arnes.si | Those who do not understand Unix ARNES, Jamova 39 | Tel: +386 61 125-1515 | are condemned to reinvent it, SI-1000 Ljubljana | Fax: +386 61 125-5454 | poorly. Member of Linux User Group Of Slovenia http://www.zrsss.si/~lugos/ From Dragan.Nedeljkovic na kiss.uni-lj.si Tue Feb 18 23:16:03 1997 From: Dragan.Nedeljkovic na kiss.uni-lj.si (Dragan Nedeljkovic) Date: Sun Dec 26 15:50:25 2004 Subject: Podpisi na notariatu References: Message-ID: <330A2A23.77BE@kiss.uni-lj.si> Miha Tomsic Mike wrote: > > Hojla! > > OK, folk, zdaj dogajamo... V ponedeljek sem nesel seznam na notariat (Trg > republike 3, LJ). Jaz sem ze podpisal, zdaj pa lahko greste se ostali. Pri > tajnici, ki ureja vse posle samo poveste, da ste prisli podpisat za > drustvo LUGOS. Cena overovitve podpisa je 537 Sit. > > Kdo mora iti podpisat? > > Dragan Nedeljkovic Consider it done:), upam da delajo tudi popoldan. > Sestanek bo 6.3.'97 (drugih predlogov nisem dobil...). Kar meni odgovarja, zadnji izpit 3.3. '97, hehehe! Dragan! -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2i mQCNAzLd16wAAAEEALrdF8SU/r71/47hcdlahKeqA74OmLrIGWsi+dFNCWcogZNQ tFKZLZWtekITpj/G/yBp0u6hjgBx0GyN+H4KY9ui7Wo+0abJOY1WVs88YU8TNoDv yIT6NUDx3qteInt0Kn2yLmUodCgImreCKYq1nlbLQ4AB48DLPr1VMQbYgaLpAAUR tDZEcmFnYW4gTmVkZWxqa292aWMgPERyYWdhbi5OZWRlbGprb3ZpY0BraXNzLnVu aS1sai5zaT4= =iPS5 -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----