From jelen_v_senci at yahoo.co.uk  Thu Oct  2 10:44:31 2008
From: jelen_v_senci at yahoo.co.uk (Matic Smerdu)
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 08:44:31 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [LUGOS] yum localupdate firefox
In-Reply-To: <48E297F8.8080209@jerak.si>
Message-ID: <903718.29986.qm@web28612.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>

Danes sem imel pa tudi jaz ?pagete za kosilo. Vsi so bili v redu, sam en je bil zavozlan. Takole:

--------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------
---------<>--------------------------------------- <- tale je zavozlan

Vsi so krasno smuknili po grlu, samo ta zavozlanega mi nikakor ni uspelo instalitati v ?elodec. Sem poskusil z ukazom yum localupdate.
Morda kak?en nasvet?
Bi si moral nadgraditi ?elodec na novej?o verzijo?


Ljubko prdni po okusnem kosilcu


                Poni


--- On Tue, 30/9/08, Marko Jerak <marko na jerak.si> wrote:

> From: Marko Jerak <marko na jerak.si>
> Subject: Re: [LUGOS] yum localupdate firefox
> To: "Glavni dopisni seznam LUGOSa" <lugos-list na lugos.si>
> Received: Tuesday, 30 September, 2008, 11:19 PM
> ne morem verjet
> a tebi tud?
> 
> me veseli sem ?e mislu, da je z mano kaj ....
> 
> Blaz Podrzaj pravi:
> > ???
> >
> > Jaz sem imel pa vceraj za kosilo spagete. Vsi so bili
> dolgi 25 cm razen enega:
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------
> > -------------------------------------------------
> > -------------------------------------------------
> > ------------------- <- tale je bil precej krajsi
> >
> > Sexy ane.
> >
> > lp,B
> >
> > Quoting Matic Smerdu
> <jelen_v_senci na yahoo.co.uk>:
> >
> >   
> >> Kokodak
> >>
> >> Danes sem posku?al instalirati Firefox 3.0.3 rpm v
> Fedoro 7 z ukazom 
> >> yum localupdate. Takole:
> >> yum localupdate
> /home/matic/temp/firefox-3.0.3-1.fc7.remi.i386.rpm
> >>
> >> Ni uspelo. Dobil sem takole sporo?ilo:
> >>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Examining
> /home/matic/temp/firefox-3.0.3-1.fc7.remi.i386.rpm: firefox 
> >> - 3.0.3-1.fc7.remi.i386
> >> Marking
> /home/matic/temp/firefox-3.0.3-1.fc7.remi.i386.rpm as an 
> >> update to firefox - 2.0.0.14-1.fc7.i386
> >> Resolving Dependencies
> >> --> Running transaction check
> >> --> Processing Dependency: gecko-libs =
> 1.8.1.14 for package: 
> >> gnome-python2-gtkmozembed
> >> ---> Package firefox.i386 0:3.0.3-1.fc7.remi
> set to be updated
> >> --> Processing Dependency: xulrunner = 1.9.0.3
> for package: firefox
> >> --> Processing Dependency: libxul.so for
> package: firefox
> >> --> Finished Dependency Resolution
> >> Error: Missing Dependency: libxul.so is needed by
> package firefox
> >> Error: Missing Dependency: gecko-libs = 1.8.1.14
> is needed by package 
> >> gnome-python2-gtkmozembed
> >> Error: Missing Dependency: xulrunner = 1.9.0.3 is
> needed by package firefox
> >>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Ljubko kajne.
> >>     
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From tomaz.zupan at orpo.si  Thu Oct  2 16:11:04 2008
From: tomaz.zupan at orpo.si (=?utf-8?q?Toma=C5=BE_Zupan?=)
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 16:11:04 +0200
Subject: [LUGOS] postfix main.cf
In-Reply-To: <48E0B295.1040402@gmail.com>
References: <48CFB630.60801@gmail.com> <48CFC26B.7030305@sklab.org>
	<48E0B295.1040402@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200810021611.04397.tomaz.zupan@orpo.si>

Pozdravljeni!

Pojavljaja se mi razlika med konfiguracijo v main.cf in dejanskim stanjem, ki 
ga preverim s postconf. Zakaj?

# grep smtpd_recipient_restrictions main.cf
smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, permit_sasl_authenticated, 
reject_non_fqdn_sender, reject_non_fqdn_recipient, reject_unauth_destination,  
reject_unauth_pipelining, reject_invalid_hostname, reject_rbl_client 
bl.spamcop.net, reject_rbl_client sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org, check_policy_service 
unix:/extern/postgrey/socket

# postconf -d | grep smtpd_recipient_restrictions
smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, reject_unauth_destination

-- 
LP, 
Toma? Zupan

From gupofonus at gmail.com  Thu Oct  2 17:51:59 2008
From: gupofonus at gmail.com (Gupy the Fish)
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 17:51:59 +0200
Subject: [LUGOS] amarok+ipod
Message-ID: <7d11d470810020851xc5244f3y2da76f73ae324d8b@mail.gmail.com>

Pozdravljeni,

ko z amarokom nalozim podcaste na ipod nano, se ipod vedno vsuje in ga je
treba resetirat (kljub temu, da ga disconnectam in unmountam, preden ga
odklopim). Browsat po vmesniku gre normalno, cim pa grem v mapo podcast,
frizne. Po resetu je spet vse normalno.

amarok 1.4.9.1 (using KDE 3.5.9) @ Ubuntu 8.04.

Se kemu dogaja podobno; oz. ve kdo kaj je vzrok te tezave?

Lp
M
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From a at aufbix.org  Thu Oct  2 19:00:56 2008
From: a at aufbix.org (Andraz Sraka)
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 19:00:56 +0200
Subject: [LUGOS] amarok+ipod
In-Reply-To: <7d11d470810020851xc5244f3y2da76f73ae324d8b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7d11d470810020851xc5244f3y2da76f73ae324d8b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1222966856.1929.3.camel@maya.home.lan>

On Thu, 2008-10-02 at 17:51 +0200, Gupy the Fish wrote:
> amarok 1.4.9.1 (using KDE 3.5.9) @ Ubuntu 8.04.
> 
> Se kemu dogaja podobno; oz. ve kdo kaj je vzrok te tezave?

Katero verzijo firmware-a imas na ipod nanotu? Lahko probas se ze
gtk-pod-om .. ker ce ne je definitivno problem v amaroku.

Moj nasvet .. downgradaj amarok (ce ti je to prej delovalo) oz. mogoce
sprobaj Amarok 2 verzijo.

a.
-- 
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From gupofonus at gmail.com  Thu Oct  2 23:33:56 2008
From: gupofonus at gmail.com (Gupy the Fish)
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 23:33:56 +0200
Subject: [LUGOS] amarok+ipod
In-Reply-To: <1222966856.1929.3.camel@maya.home.lan>
References: <7d11d470810020851xc5244f3y2da76f73ae324d8b@mail.gmail.com>
	<1222966856.1929.3.camel@maya.home.lan>
Message-ID: <7d11d470810021433p7c3bda97uda56989e0f33127a@mail.gmail.com>

> Katero verzijo firmware-a imas na ipod nanotu?

nevem, original star 2 leti... nisem upgrejdal, pa niti ne vidim moznosti,
da se to stori brez iTunesov


> Lahko probas se ze
> gtk-pod-om .. ker ce ne je definitivno problem v amaroku.

gtk-pod je cuden :), niti ne vidi pol stvari, ki so gor. Se bom se malo
poigral z njim.


>
> Moj nasvet .. downgradaj amarok (ce ti je to prej delovalo)

ne, s to verzijo amaroka sem zacel; tako da ni problem v tem, da bi v
starejsi delalo, v tej pa ne.


> oz. mogoce
> sprobaj Amarok 2 verzijo.

hmhm.. mogoce pa res.

Zanima me tudi, ce sploh uporablja kdo ipoda pod linuxi in ce ima kaksne
tezave?
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From a at aufbix.org  Fri Oct  3 01:12:32 2008
From: a at aufbix.org (Andraz Sraka)
Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 01:12:32 +0200
Subject: [LUGOS] amarok+ipod
In-Reply-To: <7d11d470810021433p7c3bda97uda56989e0f33127a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7d11d470810020851xc5244f3y2da76f73ae324d8b@mail.gmail.com>
	<1222966856.1929.3.camel@maya.home.lan>
	<7d11d470810021433p7c3bda97uda56989e0f33127a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1222989152.20368.1.camel@maya.home.lan>

On Thu, 2008-10-02 at 23:33 +0200, Gupy the Fish wrote:
> Zanima me tudi, ce sploh uporablja kdo ipoda pod linuxi in ce ima
> kaksne tezave?

Da normalno z gtkpod-om (tako iPod mini, kot iPod nano); zdaj z
iPhone-om/iTouch-em je pa malo vec muk, ker stvari ravno ne delajo cisto
out-of-the-box.

lp,
 Andraz

-- 
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Your processor does not develop enough heat.
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From kavka14 at gmail.com  Fri Oct  3 08:24:28 2008
From: kavka14 at gmail.com (Ales)
Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 08:24:28 +0200
Subject: [LUGOS] Samba in date modified
In-Reply-To: <48E0B295.1040402@gmail.com>
References: <48CFB630.60801@gmail.com> <48CFC26B.7030305@sklab.org>
	<48E0B295.1040402@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48E5BA9C.4080203@gmail.com>

a tega preexec noben ne pozna?

?e vedno bi rabil kak?en nasvet :)

Ales wrote:
> ?ele sedaj se je na?lo nekaj ?asa za igranje s SAMBO :)
>
> V smb.conf sem pod share sem dodal
>
>   root preexec = echo "%u connected to %S from %m (%I)\" >>/tmp/my.log
>
> pa se v my.log ni? ne dogaja
>
> Ali sem kaj zgre?il? Al pa ta zadeva ne deluje?
>
>
>
>
> Rok Krajnc wrote:
>> Ales wrote:
>>   
>>> Uporabnikom sem na stre?niku kreiral nek dir, ki je dostopen preko 
>>> javnega URLja (preko http-ja). Ker gre za za?asne podatke in bi rad 
>>> vsebino te mape avtomatsko ?istil (datoteke, ki so starej?e od 24h (so 
>>> bile dodane pred 24h ali ve?)) me zanima kako naj to zrihtam.
>>>
>>> Ko uporabnik namre? skopira neko datoteko ZIP v omenjeno mapo obdr?i 
>>> date modified. Razmi?ljal sem, ?e bi lahko na sambi nastavil, da ob 
>>> kopiranju ?esarkoli v to mapo spremeni date modified na trenutni datum. 
>>> Potem bi pa v shellu uredil cron, ki bi brisal starej?e datoteke.
>>>
>>> Predvsem me zanima ali samba zmore spreminjati date modified in sevda 
>>> kako :)?
>>>
>>>   
>>>     
>> Seveda se da.
>>
>> Sambi lahko za vsak share nastavi? program, ki se za?ene pred / po 
>> dostopu. Glej 'root preexec', 'preexec' opcije v smb.conf.
>> ?as lahko datoteki spremeni? z uporabo 'touch'.
>> Potem pa samo ?e 'find . -type f -mtime ...'
>>
>> LP!
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> lugos-list mailing list
>> lugos-list na lugos.si
>> http://liste2.lugos.si/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lugos-list
>>   
>
>
> -- 
> Ale? Curk :)
>
> + CALLTO://alescurk (Skype)
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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From b at thz.net  Fri Oct  3 10:28:00 2008
From: b at thz.net (Blaz Podrzaj)
Date: Fri,  3 Oct 2008 10:28:00 +0200
Subject: [LUGOS] Samba in date modified
In-Reply-To: <48E5BA9C.4080203@gmail.com>
References: <48CFB630.60801@gmail.com> <48CFC26B.7030305@sklab.org>
	<48E0B295.1040402@gmail.com> <48E5BA9C.4080203@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20081003102800.aqpctqt4pskkcc04@mail.psilon.org>

Ocitno se nihce ni s tem ukvarjal...

V smb.conf povecaj debug level in poskusaj zadevo sam razvozljati.

Drugace pa imas v spodnjem primeru en typo pri eskejpanju prvega dvojnega
narekovaja... mogoce je to.

lp,B

Quoting Ales <kavka14 at gmail.com>:

> a tega preexec noben ne pozna?
>
> ?e vedno bi rabil kak?en nasvet :)
>
> Ales wrote:
>> ?ele sedaj se je na?lo nekaj ?asa za igranje s SAMBO :)
>>
>> V smb.conf sem pod share sem dodal
>>
>>   root preexec = echo "%u connected to %S from %m (%I)\" >>/tmp/my.log
>>
>> pa se v my.log ni? ne dogaja
>>
>> Ali sem kaj zgre?il? Al pa ta zadeva ne deluje?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Rok Krajnc wrote:
>>> Ales wrote:
>>>
>>>> Uporabnikom sem na stre?niku kreiral nek dir, ki je dostopen preko 
>>>> javnega URLja (preko http-ja). Ker gre za za?asne podatke in bi 
>>>> rad vsebino te mape avtomatsko ?istil (datoteke, ki so starej?e od 
>>>> 24h (so bile dodane pred 24h ali ve?)) me zanima kako naj to 
>>>> zrihtam.
>>>>
>>>> Ko uporabnik namre? skopira neko datoteko ZIP v omenjeno mapo 
>>>> obdr?i date modified. Razmi?ljal sem, ?e bi lahko na sambi 
>>>> nastavil, da ob kopiranju ?esarkoli v to mapo spremeni date 
>>>> modified na trenutni datum. Potem bi pa v shellu uredil cron, ki 
>>>> bi brisal starej?e datoteke.
>>>>
>>>> Predvsem me zanima ali samba zmore spreminjati date modified in 
>>>> sevda kako :)?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Seveda se da.
>>>
>>> Sambi lahko za vsak share nastavi? program, ki se za?ene pred / po 
>>> dostopu. Glej 'root preexec', 'preexec' opcije v smb.conf.
>>> ?as lahko datoteki spremeni? z uporabo 'touch'.
>>> Potem pa samo ?e 'find . -type f -mtime ...'
>>>
>>> LP!
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> lugos-list mailing list
>>> lugos-list at lugos.si
>>> http://liste2.lugos.si/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lugos-list
>>>
>>
>>
>> -- Ale? Curk :)
>>
>> + CALLTO://alescurk (Skype)
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>
>
> -- Ale? Curk :)
>
> + CALLTO://alescurk (Skype)
>
>



From gupofonus at gmail.com  Fri Oct  3 10:34:38 2008
From: gupofonus at gmail.com (Gupy the Fish)
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 10:34:38 +0200
Subject: [LUGOS] amarok+ipod
In-Reply-To: <1222989152.20368.1.camel@maya.home.lan>
References: <7d11d470810020851xc5244f3y2da76f73ae324d8b@mail.gmail.com>
	<1222966856.1929.3.camel@maya.home.lan>
	<7d11d470810021433p7c3bda97uda56989e0f33127a@mail.gmail.com>
	<1222989152.20368.1.camel@maya.home.lan>
Message-ID: <7d11d470810030134lc8fdbe9vdd4ce60bb6cbfaf4@mail.gmail.com>

>
> iPhone-om/iTouch-em je pa malo vec muk, ker stvari ravno ne delajo cisto
> out-of-the-box.

s tem se tudi jaz zafrkavam. A mas glede firmwara 2.* kako dobro novico?
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From tomaz.zupan at orpo.si  Fri Oct  3 11:40:09 2008
From: tomaz.zupan at orpo.si (=?utf-8?q?Toma=C5=BE_Zupan?=)
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 11:40:09 +0200
Subject: [LUGOS] postfix main.cf
In-Reply-To: <200810021611.04397.tomaz.zupan@orpo.si>
References: <48CFB630.60801@gmail.com> <48E0B295.1040402@gmail.com>
	<200810021611.04397.tomaz.zupan@orpo.si>
Message-ID: <200810031140.09967.tomaz.zupan@orpo.si>

Thursday 02 October 2008 16:11:04 je Toma? Zupan napisal:
>
> Pojavljaja se mi razlika med konfiguracijo v main.cf in dejanskim stanjem,
> ki ga preverim s postconf. Zakaj?

> # postconf -d | grep smtpd_recipient_restrictions

Zato ker postconf -d vrne default in ne trenutne vrednosti... 

LP, Toma?

From jest at softraja.com  Fri Oct  3 13:24:46 2008
From: jest at softraja.com (jest at softraja.com)
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 13:24:46 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [LUGOS] Postfix & black liste & siol = problem
Message-ID: <39963.193.142.149.34.1223033086.squirrel@www.softraja.com>

Pozdrav,

v postfix-u imam napisano:

smtpd_client_restrictions = check_client_access
hash:/etc/postfix/client_access,reject_maps_rbl
#,reject_unknown_client

maps_rbl_domains = cbl.abuseat.org,
            list.dsbl.org,
            sbl.spamhaus.org,
            pbl.spamhaus.org,
            bl.spamcop.net,
            phishing.rbl.msrbl.net,
            images.rbl.msrbl.net,
            combined.rbl.msrbl.net

torej ?e je po?tni stre?nik na ?rni listi - po?te ne sprejmem in je mir :)

Te?ava je samo z siol stre?nikom, namre? tam gostuje kar nekaj domen,
od katerih moram e-po?to sprejet.
Vpra?anje:
- kaj se da spremeniti, da bi siol stre?nik (ali njihovi ip naslovi) bil
na white listi in bi ne glede na preverjanje black list - moj stre?nik
prejel po?to iz siol ip naslova, torej da excludam siol stre?nike :)

hvala lepa.






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From tomaz.zupan at orpo.si  Fri Oct  3 14:22:15 2008
From: tomaz.zupan at orpo.si (=?utf-8?q?Toma=C5=BE_Zupan?=)
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 14:22:15 +0200
Subject: [LUGOS] Postfix & black liste & siol = problem
In-Reply-To: <39963.193.142.149.34.1223033086.squirrel@www.softraja.com>
References: <39963.193.142.149.34.1223033086.squirrel@www.softraja.com>
Message-ID: <200810031422.15092.tomaz.zupan@orpo.si>


Friday 03 October 2008 13:24:46 je jest at softraja.com napisal:
> v postfix-u imam napisano:
>
> smtpd_client_restrictions = check_client_access
> hash:/etc/postfix/client_access ,reject_maps_rbl 
> #,reject_unknown_client
>
>             list.dsbl.org,

DSBL is gone. 
http://www.dsbl.org/

> Vpra?anje:
> - kaj se da spremeniti, da bi siol stre?nik (ali njihovi ip naslovi) bil
> na white listi in bi ne glede na preverjanje black list - moj stre?nik
> prejel po?to iz siol ip naslova, torej da excludam siol stre?nike :)

Si posku?al vpisati siolove stre?nike v /etc/postfix/client_access ?

LP, Toma?


From jest at softraja.com  Fri Oct  3 14:33:13 2008
From: jest at softraja.com (jest at softraja.com)
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 14:33:13 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [LUGOS] Postfix & black liste & siol = problem
In-Reply-To: <200810031422.15092.tomaz.zupan@orpo.si>
References: <39963.193.142.149.34.1223033086.squirrel@www.softraja.com>
	<200810031422.15092.tomaz.zupan@orpo.si>
Message-ID: <53159.193.142.149.34.1223037193.squirrel@www.softraja.com>


?ivjo,

hvala za odogovor,

v client_access imam sicer blokirane adsl priklju?ke, npr.:

dsl.siol.net                    554 Uporabite streznik mail.siol.net za
odhodno posto ali si uredite 'povratni naslov' za vas IP. Za nadaljne
informacije klicite 080 1000

dial-up.siol.net                554 Uporabite streznik mail.siol.net za
odhodno posto ali si uredite 'povratni naslov' za vas IP. Za nadaljne
informacije klicite 080 1000

torej kako naj potem izgleda vrstica, najbr? nekaj kot:

mta.siol.net    accept  ali kako ?

hvala lepa za pomo?.




>
> Friday 03 October 2008 13:24:46 je jest at softraja.com napisal:
>> v postfix-u imam napisano:
>>
>> smtpd_client_restrictions = check_client_access
>> hash:/etc/postfix/client_access ,reject_maps_rbl
>> #,reject_unknown_client
>>
>>             list.dsbl.org,
>
> DSBL is gone.
> http://www.dsbl.org/
>
>> Vpra?anje:
>> - kaj se da spremeniti, da bi siol stre?nik (ali njihovi ip naslovi) bil
>> na white listi in bi ne glede na preverjanje black list - moj stre?nik
>> prejel po?to iz siol ip naslova, torej da excludam siol stre?nike :)
>
> Si posku?al vpisati siolove stre?nike v /etc/postfix/client_access ?
>
> LP, Toma?
>
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From tomaz.zupan at orpo.si  Fri Oct  3 14:50:38 2008
From: tomaz.zupan at orpo.si (=?utf-8?q?Toma=C5=BE_Zupan?=)
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 14:50:38 +0200
Subject: [LUGOS] Postfix & black liste & siol = problem
In-Reply-To: <53159.193.142.149.34.1223037193.squirrel@www.softraja.com>
References: <39963.193.142.149.34.1223033086.squirrel@www.softraja.com>
	<200810031422.15092.tomaz.zupan@orpo.si>
	<53159.193.142.149.34.1223037193.squirrel@www.softraja.com>
Message-ID: <200810031450.38486.tomaz.zupan@orpo.si>


Friday 03 October 2008 14:33:13 je jest at softraja.com napisal:
> torej kako naj potem izgleda vrstica, najbr? nekaj kot:
>
> mta.siol.net    accept  ali kako ?
>
mta.siol.net OK

http://www.postfix.org/access.5.html

LP, Toma?

From pajek at pajcevina.net  Fri Oct  3 21:05:26 2008
From: pajek at pajcevina.net (Iztok Kham)
Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 21:05:26 +0200
Subject: [LUGOS] ext3 particija skrite datoteke
Message-ID: <48E66CF6.8090207@pajcevina.net>

Lep pozdrav!

Iz starega ra?unalnika sem SATA disk prestavil v drug ra?unalnik in 
sedaj sa mi mounta in lahko brez problema pregledujem disk in kopiram 
datoteke.
Problem pa je, da enega direktorija ne najdem (oz. mi ga ne poka?e) ne v 
mc ne "na roke". V mc imam vklopljen prikaz skritih (.xxx) datotek in mi 
druge datoteke poka?e pravilno.

Hec je, da sem ta isti disk v?eraj priklopil na doma?i mlin?ek (Kubuntu 
8) in sem lahko ta direktorij skopiral, danes na mojem server?ku 
(Debian) pa ga ne vidim.

Zanimivo je, da mi df ka?e prostor kot zaseden (vsebina direktorija bi 
morala zasesti nekje okoli 55 GB), du -s v rootu tega diska/particije, 
pa mi poka?e vsega skupaj 8,3 GB.

Prilagam izpis teh dveh komand:
--------------------------------------
broj1:/srv/sata0# du -s -h && df
8,4G    .
Dat. sist.           1K-blokov      Upor. Na voljo Upo% Priklopljeno na
/dev/sdb1             31143268  24239332   5321940  82% /
tmpfs                  1038168        16   1038152   1% /lib/init/rw
udev                     10240        96     10144   1% /dev
tmpfs                  1038168         0   1038168   0% /dev/shm
/dev/hda1             74312868  54217440  16320560  77% /srv/hda
/dev/sda1             17299004   8929316   6612184  58% /srv/sata0
--------------------------------------

Ker sem na podro?ju mountanja itd bolj bos, vas prosim za pomo? oz. 
razlago, ker se mire ne da prena?at teh podatkov sem in tja ...


-- Iztok

From pajek at pajcevina.net  Sat Oct  4 11:42:32 2008
From: pajek at pajcevina.net (Iztok Kham)
Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 11:42:32 +0200
Subject: [LUGOS] ext3 particija skrite datoteke
In-Reply-To: <48E66CF6.8090207@pajcevina.net>
References: <48E66CF6.8090207@pajcevina.net>
Message-ID: <48E73A88.9090500@pajcevina.net>

Hm, se opravi?ujem!

Moja napaka, gledal sem napa?en disk!
Se posipam s pepelom ...

-- Iztok

Iztok Kham pravi:
> Lep pozdrav!
>
> Iz starega ra?unalnika sem SATA disk prestavil v drug ra?unalnik in 
> sedaj sa mi mounta in lahko brez problema pregledujem disk in kopiram 
> datoteke.
> Problem pa je, da enega direktorija ne najdem (oz. mi ga ne poka?e) ne v 
> mc ne "na roke". V mc imam vklopljen prikaz skritih (.xxx) datotek in mi 
> druge datoteke poka?e pravilno.
>
> Hec je, da sem ta isti disk v?eraj priklopil na doma?i mlin?ek (Kubuntu 
> 8) in sem lahko ta direktorij skopiral, danes na mojem server?ku 
> (Debian) pa ga ne vidim.
>
> Zanimivo je, da mi df ka?e prostor kot zaseden (vsebina direktorija bi 
> morala zasesti nekje okoli 55 GB), du -s v rootu tega diska/particije, 
> pa mi poka?e vsega skupaj 8,3 GB.
>
> Prilagam izpis teh dveh komand:
> --------------------------------------
> broj1:/srv/sata0# du -s -h && df
> 8,4G    .
> Dat. sist.           1K-blokov      Upor. Na voljo Upo% Priklopljeno na
> /dev/sdb1             31143268  24239332   5321940  82% /
> tmpfs                  1038168        16   1038152   1% /lib/init/rw
> udev                     10240        96     10144   1% /dev
> tmpfs                  1038168         0   1038168   0% /dev/shm
> /dev/hda1             74312868  54217440  16320560  77% /srv/hda
> /dev/sda1             17299004   8929316   6612184  58% /srv/sata0
> --------------------------------------
>
> Ker sem na podro?ju mountanja itd bolj bos, vas prosim za pomo? oz. 
> razlago, ker se mire ne da prena?at teh podatkov sem in tja ...
>
>
> -- Iztok
> _______________________________________________
> lugos-list mailing list
> lugos-list na lugos.si
> http://liste2.lugos.si/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lugos-list
>   


From a at aufbix.org  Sat Oct  4 13:56:02 2008
From: a at aufbix.org (Andraz Sraka)
Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 13:56:02 +0200
Subject: [LUGOS] amarok+ipod
In-Reply-To: <7d11d470810030134lc8fdbe9vdd4ce60bb6cbfaf4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7d11d470810020851xc5244f3y2da76f73ae324d8b@mail.gmail.com>
	<1222966856.1929.3.camel@maya.home.lan>
	<7d11d470810021433p7c3bda97uda56989e0f33127a@mail.gmail.com>
	<1222989152.20368.1.camel@maya.home.lan>
	<7d11d470810030134lc8fdbe9vdd4ce60bb6cbfaf4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1223121362.1705.5.camel@maya.home.lan>

re

On Fri, 2008-10-03 at 10:34 +0200, Gupy the Fish wrote:
> s tem se tudi jaz zafrkavam. A mas glede firmwara 2.* kako dobro
> novico?

FuseFS + SSH over Wifi naceloma lepo dela; samo bistveno prepocasi za
neko uporabo.. FuseFS + FTP over Wifi mi pa trenutno sjeba pravice nad
dadotekami, kar mi je tudi v tem momentu neuporabno, ampak se resujem :)

Drugace pa ja, jaz se nisem upgradal firware-a na 2.x, ker se ni tako
lepo hackable, kot prejsni :)

a.

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From gupofonus at gmail.com  Sun Oct  5 14:40:12 2008
From: gupofonus at gmail.com (Gupy the Fish)
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 14:40:12 +0200
Subject: [LUGOS] amarok+ipod
In-Reply-To: <1223121362.1705.5.camel@maya.home.lan>
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	<1222966856.1929.3.camel@maya.home.lan>
	<7d11d470810021433p7c3bda97uda56989e0f33127a@mail.gmail.com>
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>  ampak se resujem :)

z veseljem pricakujem koncne resitve :D
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From jelen_v_senci at yahoo.co.uk  Tue Oct  7 14:37:49 2008
From: jelen_v_senci at yahoo.co.uk (Matic Smerdu)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 12:37:49 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [LUGOS] Zahvala
Message-ID: <680801.97202.qm@web28611.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>

Dragi gospodje

?e ve?krat sem vas prosil za pomo? in ve? nasvetov sem prejel. ?ele zdaj pa se mi je posvetilo, da se sploh nisem zahvalil zanje. Res mi je ?al za to in upam, da ?e ni prepozno. Hvala, res hvala za vse nasvete.

Zdajle se spomnim posebno tistega, ko je bila slika na monitorju v Linuxu zamaknjena za kakih 5mm desno. Res hvala za ta nasvet in tudi za vse ostale, ?eprav malo pozno.

Mimogrede sem pomislil, da bi se morda dalo to kako zrihtati z nastavitvami monitorja. ?e morda lahko monitor shrani ve? razli?nih nastavitev. Ampak monitor najbr? ne more prepoznati operacijskega sistema, oziroma jih lo?iti med sabo..... Pa pustimo to.

Torej ?e enkrat hvala za vse nasvete in upam, da prihodnji? ne bom tako pozabljiv.

lep pozdrav in ?iv-?iv


               Poni


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From pajek at pajcevina.net  Wed Oct  8 12:08:46 2008
From: pajek at pajcevina.net (Iztok Kham)
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 12:08:46 +0200
Subject: [LUGOS] =?utf-8?q?Nedelujo=C4=8Da_mre=C5=BEna_-_3Com?=
Message-ID: <48EC86AE.5010702@pajcevina.net>

Lep pozdrav!

Na star ra?unalnik (HP e-pc) sem instaliral Debian Lenny.
Na?eloma vse lepo deluje razen mre?ne kartice 3Com 3c905C-TX.
Gonilnik se lepo nalo?i, tudi nastavim jo lahko, samo povezava ne deluje 
(na switchu in kartici lu?ki gorita).
Mre?a ne deluje niti s stati?nimi nastavitvami, preko DHCP pa enostavno 
ne dobi nastavitev.
Kot ka?e se ne vklopi "RF" del kartice in zadeva je 99% softwerska.
Namre?, ?e za?enem Windows 2000 mi povezava lepo deluje (nastavitve z DHCP).
?e bolj absurdno pa je, da ko za?enem ra?unalnik v Windows 2000 in ga 
restartam in za?enem Linux, mi zadeva deluje ... go figure.

Sem pa preveril ?e z Ubuntujem in Knoppixom in je stvar enaka, kot pri 
Debianu.

Prosim za kak?en nasvet, ker res ne ?elim porabiti enga USB vhoda (od 
dveh) za mre?o.


-- Iztok

From pajek at pajcevina.net  Wed Oct  8 14:03:40 2008
From: pajek at pajcevina.net (Iztok Kham)
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 14:03:40 +0200
Subject: [LUGOS] =?utf-8?q?Nedelujo=C4=8Da_mre=C5=BEna_-_3Com?=
In-Reply-To: <48EC86AE.5010702@pajcevina.net>
References: <48EC86AE.5010702@pajcevina.net>
Message-ID: <48ECA19C.6090008@pajcevina.net>

Iztok Kham pravi:
> Lep pozdrav!
>
> Na star ra?unalnik (HP e-pc) sem instaliral Debian Lenny.
> Na?eloma vse lepo deluje razen mre?ne kartice 3Com 3c905C-TX.
> Gonilnik se lepo nalo?i, tudi nastavim jo lahko, samo povezava ne deluje 
> (na switchu in kartici lu?ki gorita).
> Mre?a ne deluje niti s stati?nimi nastavitvami, preko DHCP pa enostavno 
> ne dobi nastavitev.
> Kot ka?e se ne vklopi "RF" del kartice in zadeva je 99% softwerska.
> Namre?, ?e za?enem Windows 2000 mi povezava lepo deluje (nastavitve z DHCP).
> ?e bolj absurdno pa je, da ko za?enem ra?unalnik v Windows 2000 in ga 
> restartam in za?enem Linux, mi zadeva deluje ... go figure.
>
> Sem pa preveril ?e z Ubuntujem in Knoppixom in je stvar enaka, kot pri 
> Debianu.
>
> Prosim za kak?en nasvet, ker res ne ?elim porabiti enga USB vhoda (od 
> dveh) za mre?o.
>
>
> -- Iztok
> _______________________________________________
> lugos-list mailing list
> lugos-list na lugos.si
> http://liste2.lugos.si/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lugos-list
>   
Sprememba situacije:
Trenutno zadeva deluje, vendar samo v eno smer ...
Lahko pingam GW (192.168.1.11), v obratno smer oz. s kateregakoli 
ra?unalnika v mre?i pa ne deluje.
?e kabel izklopim in ponovno vklopim v mlin?ek, zadeva nekaj ?asa (nekaj 
minut) deluje in potem crkne.

-- Iztok

From mlist at japina.eu  Wed Oct  8 16:03:10 2008
From: mlist at japina.eu (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Bo=B9tjan_Jerko?=)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 16:03:10 +0200
Subject: [LUGOS] =?iso-8859-2?q?Nedelujo=E8a_mre=BEna_-_3Com?=
In-Reply-To: <48ECA19C.6090008@pajcevina.net>
References: <48EC86AE.5010702@pajcevina.net> <48ECA19C.6090008@pajcevina.net>
Message-ID: <907192C3-3C3D-4662-BF6A-88E0F6BF2EC8@japina.eu>

?e ima? module skompiliran v kernel ga pripravi, kot modul (oz.  
obratno).

B.

On 8.10.2008, at 14:03, Iztok Kham wrote:

> Iztok Kham pravi:
>> Lep pozdrav!
>>
>> Na star ra?unalnik (HP e-pc) sem instaliral Debian Lenny.
>> Na?eloma vse lepo deluje razen mre?ne kartice 3Com 3c905C-TX.
>> Gonilnik se lepo nalo?i, tudi nastavim jo lahko, samo povezava ne  
>> deluje
>> (na switchu in kartici lu?ki gorita).
>> Mre?a ne deluje niti s stati?nimi nastavitvami, preko DHCP pa  
>> enostavno
>> ne dobi nastavitev.
>> Kot ka?e se ne vklopi "RF" del kartice in zadeva je 99% softwerska.
>> Namre?, ?e za?enem Windows 2000 mi povezava lepo deluje (nastavitve  
>> z DHCP).
>> ?e bolj absurdno pa je, da ko za?enem ra?unalnik v Windows 2000 in ga
>> restartam in za?enem Linux, mi zadeva deluje ... go figure.
>>
>> Sem pa preveril ?e z Ubuntujem in Knoppixom in je stvar enaka, kot  
>> pri
>> Debianu.
>>
>> Prosim za kak?en nasvet, ker res ne ?elim porabiti enga USB vhoda (od
>> dveh) za mre?o.
>>
>>
>> -- Iztok
>> _______________________________________________
>> lugos-list mailing list
>> lugos-list at lugos.si
>> http://liste2.lugos.si/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lugos-list
>>
> Sprememba situacije:
> Trenutno zadeva deluje, vendar samo v eno smer ...
> Lahko pingam GW (192.168.1.11), v obratno smer oz. s kateregakoli
> ra?unalnika v mre?i pa ne deluje.
> ?e kabel izklopim in ponovno vklopim v mlin?ek, zadeva nekaj ?asa  
> (nekaj
> minut) deluje in potem crkne.
>
> -- Iztok
> _______________________________________________
> lugos-list mailing list
> lugos-list at lugos.si
> http://liste2.lugos.si/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lugos-list


From bostjan at japet.si  Wed Oct  8 17:01:21 2008
From: bostjan at japet.si (Bostjan Janezic)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 17:01:21 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [LUGOS] =?utf-8?q?Nedelujo=C4=8Da_mre=C5=BEna_-_3Com?=
In-Reply-To: <48EC86AE.5010702@pajcevina.net>
References: <48EC86AE.5010702@pajcevina.net>
Message-ID: <63799.90.157.141.37.1223478081.squirrel@www.japet.si>

Pozdrav!

On Wed, October 8, 2008 12:08, Iztok Kham wrote:
> Prosim za kak?en nasvet, ker res ne ?elim porabiti enga USB vhoda (od
> dveh) za mre?o.
Na tejle strani ima? orodja in navodila za tole kartico:
http://www.3com.com/products/en_US/searchbyproduct.jsp?path=download&searchby=sku&search=3c905C-TX
V kolikor ne bo ni? pomagalo jo zamenjaj. :)

lp, Bo?tjan Jane?i?



From b at thz.net  Thu Oct  9 10:46:33 2008
From: b at thz.net (Blaz Podrzaj)
Date: Thu,  9 Oct 2008 10:46:33 +0200
Subject: [LUGOS] Nedelujoca mrezna - 3Com
In-Reply-To: <907192C3-3C3D-4662-BF6A-88E0F6BF2EC8@japina.eu>
References: <48EC86AE.5010702@pajcevina.net> <48ECA19C.6090008@pajcevina.net>
	<907192C3-3C3D-4662-BF6A-88E0F6BF2EC8@japina.eu>
Message-ID: <20081009104633.xes1io9qg4wkkc0c@mail.psilon.org>

In kaj s tem dosezes?

Res da imam modul 3c59x precej nastavljivih parametrov, vendar tega ti ne
omenjas. Ce naredis to kar si predlagal, nisi naredil se nic.

Jaz osebno bi pogledal kako je kartica (softversko) nastavljena pod Windowsi,
potem bi pa te nastavitve poskusil nekako (prek teh modul parametrov)
interpretirati se v Linuxu.

lp,B

Quoting Bostjan Jerko <mlist at japina.eu>:

> Ce imas module skompiliran v kernel ga pripravi, kot modul (oz.
> obratno).
>
> B.
>
> On 8.10.2008, at 14:03, Iztok Kham wrote:
>
>> Iztok Kham pravi:
>>> Lep pozdrav!
>>>
>>> Na star racunalnik (HP e-pc) sem instaliral Debian Lenny.
>>> Naceloma vse lepo deluje razen mrezne kartice 3Com 3c905C-TX.
>>> Gonilnik se lepo nalozi, tudi nastavim jo lahko, samo povezava ne
>>> deluje
>>> (na switchu in kartici lucki gorita).
>>> Mreza ne deluje niti s staticnimi nastavitvami, preko DHCP pa
>>> enostavno
>>> ne dobi nastavitev.
>>> Kot kaze se ne vklopi "RF" del kartice in zadeva je 99% softwerska.
>>> Namrec, ce zazenem Windows 2000 mi povezava lepo deluje (nastavitve
>>> z DHCP).
>>> Se bolj absurdno pa je, da ko zazenem racunalnik v Windows 2000 in ga
>>> restartam in zazenem Linux, mi zadeva deluje ... go figure.
>>>
>>> Sem pa preveril se z Ubuntujem in Knoppixom in je stvar enaka, kot
>>> pri
>>> Debianu.
>>>
>>> Prosim za kaksen nasvet, ker res ne zelim porabiti enga USB vhoda (od
>>> dveh) za mrezo.
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Iztok
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> lugos-list mailing list
>>> lugos-list at lugos.si
>>> http://liste2.lugos.si/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lugos-list
>>>
>> Sprememba situacije:
>> Trenutno zadeva deluje, vendar samo v eno smer ...
>> Lahko pingam GW (192.168.1.11), v obratno smer oz. s kateregakoli
>> racunalnika v mrezi pa ne deluje.
>> Ce kabel izklopim in ponovno vklopim v mlincek, zadeva nekaj casa
>> (nekaj
>> minut) deluje in potem crkne.
>>
>> -- Iztok
>> _______________________________________________
>> lugos-list mailing list
>> lugos-list at lugos.si
>> http://liste2.lugos.si/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lugos-list
>
> _______________________________________________
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> lugos-list at lugos.si
> http://liste2.lugos.si/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lugos-list
>
>



From dusan.kozic at gmail.com  Sat Oct 11 13:17:35 2008
From: dusan.kozic at gmail.com (Dusan Kozic)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 13:17:35 +0200
Subject: [LUGOS] hyper-v in scsi disk
Message-ID: <76904ae20810110417i6f1cf984o11c179319b85ce04@mail.gmail.com>

Zdravo!

Upam, da ne bo imel kdo predsodkov glede poganjanja Debiana na Hyper-V...:-)

No torej, rad bi zmountal SCSI disk. Znotraj direktorija /dev mi ne naredi
nobenih SCSI naprav, skratka /dev/sd* ne obstaja.

SCSI je v kernelu v obliki modulov, vse kar napi?e ob bootu pa je tole:
SCSI subsystem initialized

Po mojem je nekako treba pravilno vstaviti SCSI disk modul v kernel in
narediti ustrezne "povezave" znotraj /dev direktorija.

Hvala za vsakr?no pomo?!


-- 
Lep pozdrav,

Du?an Kozic
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From levak at element.planetq.org  Mon Oct 13 10:54:13 2008
From: levak at element.planetq.org (=?UTF-8?B?TWF0ZWogxb1lcm92bmlr?=)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:54:13 +0200
Subject: [LUGOS] Postfix & black liste & siol = problem
In-Reply-To: <200810031450.38486.tomaz.zupan@orpo.si>
References: <39963.193.142.149.34.1223033086.squirrel@www.softraja.com>	<200810031422.15092.tomaz.zupan@orpo.si>	<53159.193.142.149.34.1223037193.squirrel@www.softraja.com>
	<200810031450.38486.tomaz.zupan@orpo.si>
Message-ID: <48F30CB5.2000309@element.planetq.org>

Toma? Zupan pravi:
> Friday 03 October 2008 14:33:13 je jest na softraja.com napisal:
>   
>> torej kako naj potem izgleda vrstica, najbr? nekaj kot:
>>
>> mta.siol.net    accept  ali kako ?
>>
>>     
> mta.siol.net OK
>
> http://www.postfix.org/access.5.html
>
> LP, Toma?
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From r at aufbix.org  Wed Oct 15 07:58:49 2008
From: r at aufbix.org (Robert Ludvik)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 07:58:49 +0200
Subject: [LUGOS] OpenOffice.org 3.0 je tu!
Message-ID: <48F58699.5000607@aufbix.org>

Pozdravljeni!

(Prolog: ker ne morem posodobiti spletne strani 
http://sl.openoffice.org/prenosi.html, ki ka?e ?e na pakete pred stable, najdete stable pakete na
http://ftp.linux.cz/pub/localization/OpenOffice.org/3.0.0/).

Martin pa pravi:

Slovenska skupnost OpenOffice.org s ponosom in zadovoljstvom objavlja
izid *OpenOffice.org 3.0*, najnovej?e razli?ice vodilnega odprto-kodnega pisarni?kega paketa.

OpenOffice.org 3.0 vklju?uje nove funkcionalnosti (podpora ODF 1.2, 
Re?evalec, uvozni filtri MS Office 2007, ...), ve? kot 500 izbolj?av in ve?
kot 1700 odpravljenih hro??ev v vseh svojih modulih. Za povrh je to prva
izdaja, ki je uradno podprta v okolju OS X (Aqua). V slovenski razli?ici smo
v veliki meri poenotili prevode pojmov ?ez ves paket.

Vabimo Vas, da novosti preizkusite ?e danes, ne bo Vam ?al!

Prenesi zdaj! <http://sl.openoffice.org/prenosi.html> - Podrobnej?i zapis o
novostih <http://sl.openoffice.org/novosti30.html>


From ziga.boehm at vseved.net  Wed Oct 15 11:15:04 2008
From: ziga.boehm at vseved.net (=?iso-8859-2?q?=AEiga_B=F6hm?=)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:15:04 +0200
Subject: [LUGOS] OpenOffice.org 3.0 je tu!
In-Reply-To: <48F58699.5000607@aufbix.org>
References: <48F58699.5000607@aufbix.org>
Message-ID: <200810151115.04634.ziga.boehm@vseved.net>

Hvala vsem, ki ste in ?e vedno vlagate svoj trud v ta neverjeten izdelek!

Lp, ?iga B.

From r at aufbix.org  Thu Oct 16 18:28:51 2008
From: r at aufbix.org (Robert Ludvik)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 18:28:51 +0200
Subject: [LUGOS] [USERS-SLOOO] OpenOffice.org 3.0 je tu!
In-Reply-To: <816bfd3a0810150215x624e9b94r7404bce3b8e0dc22@mail.gmail.com>
References: <eedb934b0810141317o697247ddyc1d654ba2ee643fe@mail.gmail.com>	
	<816bfd3a0810150210k4eb83e58ob53b42c34eb82c02@mail.gmail.com>	
	<48F5B407.106@aufbix.org>
	<816bfd3a0810150215x624e9b94r7404bce3b8e0dc22@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48F76BC3.7000504@aufbix.org>

Posodobljena je tudi spletna stran http://sl.openoffice.org/prenosi.html
Prej ni ?lo, ker so bili stre?niki OOo nedosegljivi.
Lp

From pegasus at nerv.eu.org  Fri Oct 17 10:04:00 2008
From: pegasus at nerv.eu.org (Jure =?UTF-8?B?UGXEjWFy?=)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 10:04:00 +0200
Subject: [LUGOS] ssh hitrost kopiranja
Message-ID: <20081017100400.21482b36.pegasus@nerv.eu.org>


root at backup1:~# dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M count=1024 | ssh root at backup2 "cat > /dev/null"
1024+0 records in
1024+0 records out
1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 211.312 seconds, 5.1 MB/s

root at backup1:~# dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M count=1024 | ssh -C -c blowfish root at backup2 "cat > /dev/null"
1024+0 records in
1024+0 records out
1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 889.978 seconds, 1.2 MB/s

root at backup1:~# dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M count=1024 | ssh -c blowfish root at backup2 "cat > /dev/null"
1024+0 records in
1024+0 records out
1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 318.081 seconds, 3.4 MB/s

root at backup1:~# dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M count=1024 | ssh -C root at backup2 "cat > /dev/null"
1024+0 records in
1024+0 records out
1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 890.529 seconds, 1.2 MB/s

Mnenje?

Predvsem presene?a kompresija, ker bi morala same nule stisnit v nulo, pa ji to o?itno nekako ne rata najbolje.

Ima kdo konkretne izku?nje s ssh-hpn patchem?


-- 

Jure Pe?ar
http://jure.pecar.org

From metod.kozelj at lugos.si  Fri Oct 17 15:15:30 2008
From: metod.kozelj at lugos.si (Metod Kozelj)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 15:15:30 +0200
Subject: [LUGOS] ssh hitrost kopiranja
In-Reply-To: <20081017100400.21482b36.pegasus@nerv.eu.org>
References: <20081017100400.21482b36.pegasus@nerv.eu.org>
Message-ID: <48F88FF2.6040400@lugos.si>

Howdy!

Jure Pe?ar wrote:
> Predvsem presene?a kompresija, ker bi morala same nule stisnit v nulo, pa ji to o?itno nekako ne rata najbolje.
>   

?im vklopi? kak?no prera?unavanje (kompresija in/ali komplicirano 
?ifriranje), stvar postane zahtevna za CPU in ne ve? za omre?ni hardver. 
To posebej velja za stran, ki po?ilja in ?e posebej to velja pri 
komprimiranju. Zanimivo bi bilo teste pognati tako, da opazuje? ?ase 
porabljene za ssh:

dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M count=1024 | time ssh root at backup2 "cat > /dev/null"


Podoben test, ampak tokrat sta obe ma?ini kar hitri (dual-core AMD 
Opteron @2.6GHz/4xdual-core AMD Opteron @2.6GHz) in z dosti pomnilnika 
(2GB/64GB), povezava med njima pa ne tako zelo (100Mbps) - malce 
editirano, da bo bolj ?itljivo:

*here:~$ dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M count=10 | time ssh there "cat >/dev/null"*
10+0 records in
10+0 records out
10485760 bytes (10 MB) copied, 0.962431 s, 10.9 MB/s

0.13user 0.02system 0:00.98elapsed 16%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k
0inputs+0outputs (0major+1846minor)pagefaults 0swaps

*here:~$ dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M count=10 | time ssh -C there "cat 
 >/dev/null"*
10+0 records in
10+0 records out
10485760 bytes (10 MB) copied, 0.272222 s, 38.5 MB/s

0.16user 0.01system 0:00.28elapsed 63%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k
0inputs+0outputs (0major+1863minor)pagefaults 0swaps

Lepo se vidi, da tudi ob vklju?eni kompresiji CPU ni bil zaseden do 
konca, hitrost prenosa pa je narasla na skoraj 4x hitrost ?ice.

-- 

Peace!
  Mkx

-- perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5,(41*2),sqrt(7056),(unpack(c,H)-2),oct(115),10);'
-- echo 16i[q]sa[ln0=aln100%Pln100/snlbx]sbA0D4D465452snlb xq | dc

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From b at thz.net  Fri Oct 17 21:10:01 2008
From: b at thz.net (Blaz Podrzaj)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 21:10:01 +0200
Subject: [LUGOS] ssh hitrost kopiranja
In-Reply-To: <20081017100400.21482b36.pegasus@nerv.eu.org>
References: <20081017100400.21482b36.pegasus@nerv.eu.org>
Message-ID: <20081017211001.kpxxkh6rdwk8swgw@mail.psilon.org>

Nisi povedal, da je "backup1" star vec kot 10 let ;) ali pa da je 100%
obremenjen s kaksnimi drugimi opravili...

Ce imas relativno novo masino, recimo vsaj P4 grade potem bo v vsakem primeru
bottleneck 100Mb/s mreza kar pomeni da more iti brez kompresije vsaj 11MB/s
skozi in ne manj.

Pri tebi se pa vidi da procesor ze kriptiranja samega ne folga na nivoju
prepustnosti mrezne (lahko pa da imas zraven UTP kabla kaksen tro fazni vodnik
z megawatnim odjemalcem na koncu ;).

Dandanes imamo precej mocne procesorje, zato pa se splaca recimo imeti
kriptirane fajl sisteme, ker je overheada malo. Ce bi kriptiran fs naredil na
starem mlincku bi imel probleme pri pisanju, ker bi tvoji diski nonstop cakali
da ti ubogi procesor najprej zakriptira podatke.

lp,B

Quoting Jure Pe?ar <pegasus at nerv.eu.org>:

>
> root at backup1:~# dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M count=1024 | ssh root at backup2 
> "cat > /dev/null"
> 1024+0 records in
> 1024+0 records out
> 1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 211.312 seconds, 5.1 MB/s
>
> root at backup1:~# dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M count=1024 | ssh -C -c blowfish 
> root at backup2 "cat > /dev/null"
> 1024+0 records in
> 1024+0 records out
> 1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 889.978 seconds, 1.2 MB/s
>
> root at backup1:~# dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M count=1024 | ssh -c blowfish 
> root at backup2 "cat > /dev/null"
> 1024+0 records in
> 1024+0 records out
> 1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 318.081 seconds, 3.4 MB/s
>
> root at backup1:~# dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M count=1024 | ssh -C 
> root at backup2 "cat > /dev/null"
> 1024+0 records in
> 1024+0 records out
> 1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 890.529 seconds, 1.2 MB/s
>
> Mnenje?
>
> Predvsem presene?a kompresija, ker bi morala same nule stisnit v 
> nulo, pa ji to o?itno nekako ne rata najbolje.
>
> Ima kdo konkretne izku?nje s ssh-hpn patchem?
>
>
> --
>
> Jure Pe?ar
> http://jure.pecar.org
> _______________________________________________
> lugos-list mailing list
> lugos-list at lugos.si
> http://liste2.lugos.si/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lugos-list
>



From pegasus at nerv.eu.org  Fri Oct 17 21:16:54 2008
From: pegasus at nerv.eu.org (Jure =?UTF-8?B?UGXEjWFy?=)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 21:16:54 +0200
Subject: [LUGOS] ssh hitrost kopiranja
In-Reply-To: <20081017211001.kpxxkh6rdwk8swgw@mail.psilon.org>
References: <20081017100400.21482b36.pegasus@nerv.eu.org>
	<20081017211001.kpxxkh6rdwk8swgw@mail.psilon.org>
Message-ID: <20081017211654.acec6b94.pegasus@nerv.eu.org>

On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 21:10:01 +0200
Blaz Podrzaj <b at thz.net> wrote:

> Nisi povedal, da je "backup1" star vec kot 10 let ;) ali pa da je 100%
> obremenjen s kaksnimi drugimi opravili...

To je ta zanimiv del, ki sem ga namenoma spustil ;)
Ma?ini sta namre? identi?ni, dual core opterona z opensolarisom, vmes pa je
100mbit link z ipsecom.

Zelo zanimivo je, da ?e naredim:
zfs send ... | gzip | ssh root at backup2 "zcat | zfs receive ..."
dela zadeva skoraj po pri?akovanjih, ?e pa uporabim ssh -C, pa dela obupno
po?asi. Must be some SunSSH feature ...


-- 

Jure Pe?ar
http://jure.pecar.org/

From b at thz.net  Sat Oct 18 23:24:44 2008
From: b at thz.net (Blaz Podrzaj)
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 23:24:44 +0200
Subject: [LUGOS] ssh hitrost kopiranja
In-Reply-To: <20081017211654.acec6b94.pegasus@nerv.eu.org>
References: <20081017100400.21482b36.pegasus@nerv.eu.org>
	<20081017211001.kpxxkh6rdwk8swgw@mail.psilon.org>
	<20081017211654.acec6b94.pegasus@nerv.eu.org>
Message-ID: <20081018232444.i8ng4nmf44wo8cgk@mail.psilon.org>

Quoting Jure Pe?ar <pegasus at nerv.eu.org>:

> On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 21:10:01 +0200
> Blaz Podrzaj <b at thz.net> wrote:
>
>> Nisi povedal, da je "backup1" star vec kot 10 let ;) ali pa da je 100%
>> obremenjen s kaksnimi drugimi opravili...
>
> To je ta zanimiv del, ki sem ga namenoma spustil ;)
> Ma?ini sta namre? identi?ni, dual core opterona z opensolarisom, vmes 
> pa je 100mbit link z ipsecom.

Evo, sem rekel... masina je 100% obremenjena z drugimi opravili, ki se 
jim rece
opensolaris ;)

> Zelo zanimivo je, da ?e naredim:
> zfs send ... | gzip | ssh root at backup2 "zcat | zfs receive ..."
> dela zadeva skoraj po pri?akovanjih, ?e pa uporabim ssh -C, pa dela obupno
> po?asi. Must be some SunSSH feature ...

Pa uporablja ta rec OpenSSH? Verjetno ne... Poglej s katero crypto 
knjiznico je
zadeva zlinkana, da polozimo vse karte na mizo...

lp,B

From pegasus at nerv.eu.org  Sat Oct 18 23:45:07 2008
From: pegasus at nerv.eu.org (Jure =?UTF-8?B?UGXEjWFy?=)
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 23:45:07 +0200
Subject: [LUGOS] ssh hitrost kopiranja
In-Reply-To: <20081018232444.i8ng4nmf44wo8cgk@mail.psilon.org>
References: <20081017100400.21482b36.pegasus@nerv.eu.org>
	<20081017211001.kpxxkh6rdwk8swgw@mail.psilon.org>
	<20081017211654.acec6b94.pegasus@nerv.eu.org>
	<20081018232444.i8ng4nmf44wo8cgk@mail.psilon.org>
Message-ID: <20081018234507.8fd2844b.pegasus@nerv.eu.org>

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 23:24:44 +0200
Blaz Podrzaj <b at thz.net> wrote:

> Pa uporablja ta rec OpenSSH? Verjetno ne... Poglej s katero crypto 
> knjiznico je
> zadeva zlinkana, da polozimo vse karte na mizo...

Zgodovine SunSSHja ne poznam, a ?e bi ugibal, bi rekel, da bazira na kaki
starej?i openssh verziji. Binary je linkan na libcrypto.so.0.9.8, ki je
sunov openssl. A me crypto niti ne zanima ... ker je ssh kompresija tista,
ki je na slowlarisu fubar.


-- 

Jure Pe?ar
http://jure.pecar.org/

From katja.gucek at kiberpipa.org  Sun Oct 19 16:59:15 2008
From: katja.gucek at kiberpipa.org (Katja Gucek)
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 16:59:15 +0200
Subject: [LUGOS] Vabilo na 3. festival odprtih tehnologij HAIP 08
In-Reply-To: <52a3cc730810190758o1da739dfr3487ce9cf9a7ff6b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <52a3cc730810190758o1da739dfr3487ce9cf9a7ff6b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <52a3cc730810190759gec7f7a1xcb6267823d24cb53@mail.gmail.com>

---------- Forwarded message ----------
To: Kiberpipa <kiberpipa at mail.ljudmila.org>


 *Festival HAIP 08*
/ hack / act / interact / progress /
3. mednarodni multimedijski festival odprtih tehnologij

*3. - 11. november 2008*
Ljubljana, Slovenija

*/Prizori??a:/*
mesto Ljubljana, Galerija V?igalica (Trg francoske revolucije 7), Zavod
K6/4: Kiberpipa, Caff? Metropol, Klub K4 (Kersnikova 4 in 6)

*/Organizator:/*
Zavod K6/4 - Kiberpipa

*/Spletna stran:/*
http://www.kiberpipa.org/haip/

*/Program:/*
razstave in instalacije / performansi / prostorske intervencije / predavanja
/ klubski ve?er (K4) / okrogla miza

*Vstop na vse festivalske dogodke je prost z izjemo klubskega ve?era v Klubu
K4 (4 EUR).*


Med 3. in 11. novembrom 2008 bo v Ljubljani v organizaciji Kiberpipe potekal
*3. mednarodni multimedijski festival odprtih tehnologij HAIP 08*, ki bo
predstavil multimedijske umetnostne oblike, ki izhajajo iz kreativne rabe
odprtih tehnologij. Na mednarodni ravni se bodo predstavili posamezniki in
skupine, ki s svojim delovanjem kriti?no obravnavajo tehnologijo, ki nas
obkro?a in predstavlja na?e vsakdanje okolje. Osrednja linija predstavitve
bo potekala od nove umetnosti prostih digitalnih medijev in novih medijskih
vsebin, do tehni?nih in pravnih aspektov novih digitalnih medijev s prostim
dostopom.

Tema tretjega bienalnega festivala je *Hacktopija* - po odprtokodnih na?elih
urejena dru?ba med utopijo in distopijo. Hacktopija je na?rt, zamisel
idealne ureditve dru?be po odprtokodnih na?elih kot odprtokodne skupnosti v
o?jem smislu ter v ?ir?em smislu na?rt dru?be, temelje?e na deljenju znanja,
ki v sedanjosti ni mo?na. Torej hacktopi?no kodirati ali ustvarjati po
principih copylefta pomeni ?e ustvarjati v prostoru in za prostor, ki ga ?e
ni...

Festival HAIP 08 bo gostoval prek 40 umetnikov v sodelovanju s tujimi
partnerji: Monochrom, Radio FRO, Time's Up in Ciant (ve? informacij in
povezave spodaj).

*Vljudno vabljeni na otvoritev festivala, ki bo 3.11.2008:*
- Otvoritev razstave: *ob 19.00* / Galerija V?igalica, Trg francoske
revolucije 7, Ljubljana
- Otvoritveni performans: THE PIRATE BAY IN Piratbyr?n: "s23x / Ollibolli" *ob
21.00* / Kiberpipa, Kersnikova 6, Ljubljana

Vabljeni!

*/Info:/*
http://www.kiberpipa.org/haip/


*/Organizacijska ekipa/*
Vodja festivala: Da?a Lakner
Selektorji in programski koordinatorji: Da?a Lakner, Maja Smrekar, Jaka
?eleznikar, Luka Prin?i?
Odnosi z javnostmi: Katja Gu?ek
Vodja tehnike in organizacikaja klubskega ve?era: Luka Prin?i?
Tehni?na pomo?: Kolektiv Kiberpipe in Zavoda K6/4
Organizacija razstave v Kiberpipi/Caff? Metropol: Da?a Lakner
Urednica kataloga/spletne strani in organizacija razstave v galeriji
V?igalica: Maja Smrekar
Prevodi in lektura: Jernej ?upani?
Celostna podoba: Oskar Ko??ak

Za sodelovanje se zahvaljujemo mestu Ljubljana

*/Partnerji:/*
*Radio FRO* (Linz) - http://www.fro.at/
*Time's Up* (Linz) - http://www.timesup.org/
*Ciant* (Praga) - http://www.ciant.cz/
*Monochrom* (sede? na Dunaju) - http://www.monochrom.at/

*/Festival HAIP 08 podpirajo:/*
EU Culture, Ministrstvo za kulturo RS, Mestna ob?ina Ljubljana, V?igalica,
Galerija Mestnega muzeja Ljubljana, ?tudentska organizacija Univerze v
Ljubljani, Mestni muzej Ljubljana, Italijanski in?titut za kulturo v
Sloveniji, Caff? Metropol, NLB Interfinanz, Hotel Park Ljubljana

*/Medijski pokrovitelji:/*
Mladina, Monitor


Vljudno vas vabimo, da se nam pridru?ite na festivalu med in skupaj z nami
"hekate" prihodnost!


  --
Kiberpipo podpirajo: Zavod K6/4, ?OU v Ljubljani, Evropski sklad za
regionalni razvoj, Ministrstvo za visoko ?olstvo, znanost in tehnologijo -
projekt E-to?ke, Ministrstvo za kulturo RS in Mestna ob?ina Ljubljana.
Kiberpipa je ?lanica Mre?e multimedijskih centrov Slovenije M3C in Dru?tva
Asociacija.

--

Kiberpipa
Kersnikova 6
1000 Ljubljana
pon.-pet.:  10.00 - 22.00
http://www.kiberpipa.org/
http://video.kiberpipa.org/
info at kiberpipa.org
prost vstop / prost dostop / prosto programje
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From metod.kozelj at lugos.si  Mon Oct 20 09:04:46 2008
From: metod.kozelj at lugos.si (Metod Kozelj)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:04:46 +0200
Subject: [LUGOS] ssh hitrost kopiranja
In-Reply-To: <20081017211654.acec6b94.pegasus@nerv.eu.org>
References: <20081017100400.21482b36.pegasus@nerv.eu.org>	<20081017211001.kpxxkh6rdwk8swgw@mail.psilon.org>
	<20081017211654.acec6b94.pegasus@nerv.eu.org>
Message-ID: <48FC2D8E.90307@lugos.si>

Howdy!

Jure Pe?ar wrote:

> root at backup1:~# dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M count=1024 | ssh root at backup2 "cat > /dev/null"
> 1024+0 records in
> 1024+0 records out
> 1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 211.312 seconds, 5.1 MB/s

[ snip ]

> Ma?ini sta namre? identi?ni, dual core opterona z opensolarisom, vmes pa je
> 100mbit link z ipsecom.
>   

Glede na to, da niti brez kompresije scp ni sposoben kopiranja s 
hitrostjo ?ice, bi rekel, da je CPU vseeno vrat od fla?e. Meni se zdi, 
da IPsec pokuri precej CPUja za ?ifriranje in ga bolj malo ostane za ssh.

Kaj pa pravi top med tem ko testira?? Kateri procesi kurijo koliko CPUja?

-- 

Peace!
  Mkx

-- perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5,(41*2),sqrt(7056),(unpack(c,H)-2),oct(115),10);'
-- echo 16i[q]sa[ln0=aln100%Pln100/snlbx]sbA0D4D465452snlb xq | dc

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From pegasus at nerv.eu.org  Mon Oct 20 11:48:03 2008
From: pegasus at nerv.eu.org (Jure =?UTF-8?B?UGXEjWFy?=)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:48:03 +0200
Subject: [LUGOS] ssh hitrost kopiranja
In-Reply-To: <48FC2D8E.90307@lugos.si>
References: <20081017100400.21482b36.pegasus@nerv.eu.org>
	<20081017211001.kpxxkh6rdwk8swgw@mail.psilon.org>
	<20081017211654.acec6b94.pegasus@nerv.eu.org>
	<48FC2D8E.90307@lugos.si>
Message-ID: <20081020114803.6a5cc90f.pegasus@nerv.eu.org>

On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:04:46 +0200
Metod Kozelj <metod.kozelj at lugos.si> wrote:

> Glede na to, da niti brez kompresije scp ni sposoben kopiranja s 
> hitrostjo ?ice, bi rekel, da je CPU vseeno vrat od fla?e. Meni se zdi, 
> da IPsec pokuri precej CPUja za ?ifriranje in ga bolj malo ostane za ssh.
> 
> Kaj pa pravi top med tem ko testira?? Kateri procesi kurijo koliko CPUja?

Ja, ipsec na firewallih je ozko grlo. Izmeril sem ga z netcatom in vem, koliko ima prepustnost. Moja ?elja je, da bi s pomo?jo kompresije to ?tevilko dvignil, a me presene?a, da je ssh s kompresijo ?e toliko po?asnej?i.
Kakorkoli ?e, z gzipom izven sshja je hitrost ?e uporabna.

-- 

Jure Pe?ar
http://jure.pecar.org

From pegasus at nerv.eu.org  Mon Oct 20 11:54:21 2008
From: pegasus at nerv.eu.org (Jure =?UTF-8?B?UGXEjWFy?=)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:54:21 +0200
Subject: [LUGOS] ssh hitrost kopiranja
In-Reply-To: <20081020114803.6a5cc90f.pegasus@nerv.eu.org>
References: <20081017100400.21482b36.pegasus@nerv.eu.org>
	<20081017211001.kpxxkh6rdwk8swgw@mail.psilon.org>
	<20081017211654.acec6b94.pegasus@nerv.eu.org>
	<48FC2D8E.90307@lugos.si>
	<20081020114803.6a5cc90f.pegasus@nerv.eu.org>
Message-ID: <20081020115421.7b6311e1.pegasus@nerv.eu.org>

On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:48:03 +0200
Jure Pe?ar <pegasus at nerv.eu.org> wrote:

> a me presene?a, da je ssh s kompresijo ?e toliko po?asnej?i.

Konkretno, moti me to:

root at backup1:~# dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M count=1024 | gzip | ssh root at backup2 "zcat > /dev/null"
1024+0 records in
1024+0 records out
1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 18.4703 seconds, 58.1 MB/s

root at backup1:~# dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M count=1024 | ssh -C root at backup2 "cat > /dev/null"
1024+0 records in
1024+0 records out
1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 890.529 seconds, 1.2 MB/s

S tem da je baje ssh -C uporablja isti zlib ... 

O?itno nekaj za na ustrezen openslowlaris bugtracker :)


-- 

Jure Pe?ar
http://jure.pecar.org

From darko.bulat at ceterum.si  Mon Oct 20 12:02:43 2008
From: darko.bulat at ceterum.si (Darko Bulat)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:02:43 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [LUGOS] ssh hitrost kopiranja
In-Reply-To: <20081020115421.7b6311e1.pegasus@nerv.eu.org>
References: <20081017100400.21482b36.pegasus@nerv.eu.org>
	<20081017211001.kpxxkh6rdwk8swgw@mail.psilon.org>
	<20081017211654.acec6b94.pegasus@nerv.eu.org> <48FC2D8E.90307@lugos.si>
	<20081020114803.6a5cc90f.pegasus@nerv.eu.org>
	<20081020115421.7b6311e1.pegasus@nerv.eu.org>
Message-ID: <29731.193.2.237.16.1224496963.squirrel@webmail.ceterum.si>

Jure, tvoja ukaza ne merita hitrost skozi mre?o, temve? sta to poro?ila le
prvega izmed ukazov v verigi (dd).

Prvi dd plune ven pa? podatke zelo hitro (iz /dev/zero to niso ne vem
kak?ni podatki), ki jih potem gzip pre?ve?i zelo hitro (zaradi narave
"podatkov") in rezultat po?lje naprej remote ra?unalniku. V prvem primeru
je skozi pipico ?lo izjemno malo podatkov. Koliko? Dej vmes, med ukazoma
"gzip" in "ssh" ?e en " | tee blabla | " in po koncu preveri dol?ino fajla
"blabla".

Now, edino kar je zanesljivo je ?tevilo sekund kolikor se je zgodba
dogajala. Hitrost prenosa bo dol?ina fajla blabla deljeno na ?tevilo
sekund.

V drugem primeru, kjer kompresije (gzip) ni je podatek o prenosu in
prenosni hitrosti (najbr?) verodostojen.

LP

D.

--

On Pon, Oktober 20, 2008 11:54, Jure Pe?ar wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:48:03 +0200
> Jure Pe?ar <pegasus at nerv.eu.org> wrote:
>
>> a me presene?a, da je ssh s kompresijo ?e toliko po?asnej?i.
>
> Konkretno, moti me to:
>
> root at backup1:~# dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M count=1024 | gzip | ssh root at backup2
> "zcat > /dev/null"
> 1024+0 records in
> 1024+0 records out
> 1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 18.4703 seconds, 58.1 MB/s
>
> root at backup1:~# dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M count=1024 | ssh -C root at backup2
> "cat > /dev/null"
> 1024+0 records in
> 1024+0 records out
> 1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 890.529 seconds, 1.2 MB/s
>
> S tem da je baje ssh -C uporablja isti zlib ...
>
> O?itno nekaj za na ustrezen openslowlaris bugtracker :)
>
>
> --
>
> Jure Pe?ar
> http://jure.pecar.org
> _______________________________________________
> lugos-list mailing list
> lugos-list at lugos.si
> http://liste2.lugos.si/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lugos-list
>


-- 
Darko Bulat
tel: +386-41-677-884
e-mail: darko.bulat at ceterum.si


From darko.bulat at ceterum.si  Mon Oct 20 14:05:08 2008
From: darko.bulat at ceterum.si (Darko Bulat)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:05:08 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [LUGOS] ssh hitrost kopiranja
In-Reply-To: <20081020115421.7b6311e1.pegasus@nerv.eu.org>
References: <20081017100400.21482b36.pegasus@nerv.eu.org>
	<20081017211001.kpxxkh6rdwk8swgw@mail.psilon.org>
	<20081017211654.acec6b94.pegasus@nerv.eu.org> <48FC2D8E.90307@lugos.si>
	<20081020114803.6a5cc90f.pegasus@nerv.eu.org>
	<20081020115421.7b6311e1.pegasus@nerv.eu.org>
Message-ID: <1222.193.2.237.16.1224504308.squirrel@webmail.ceterum.si>

OK, zdaj sem zadevo preveril ?e pri sebi.

V primeru, ko uporabi? gzip se prenese cel 1 MB (to?no: 1042069 bytov).

/dev/zero ni primeren vir podatkov za testiranje z uporabo kompresije.

LP

Darko

--

On Pon, Oktober 20, 2008 11:54, Jure Pe?ar wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:48:03 +0200
> Jure Pe?ar <pegasus at nerv.eu.org> wrote:
>
>> a me presene?a, da je ssh s kompresijo ?e toliko po?asnej?i.
>
> Konkretno, moti me to:
>
> root at backup1:~# dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M count=1024 | gzip | ssh root at backup2
> "zcat > /dev/null"
> 1024+0 records in
> 1024+0 records out
> 1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 18.4703 seconds, 58.1 MB/s
>
> root at backup1:~# dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M count=1024 | ssh -C root at backup2
> "cat > /dev/null"
> 1024+0 records in
> 1024+0 records out
> 1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 890.529 seconds, 1.2 MB/s
>
> S tem da je baje ssh -C uporablja isti zlib ...
>
> O?itno nekaj za na ustrezen openslowlaris bugtracker :)
>
>
> --
>
> Jure Pe?ar
> http://jure.pecar.org
> _______________________________________________
> lugos-list mailing list
> lugos-list at lugos.si
> http://liste2.lugos.si/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lugos-list



From r at aufbix.org  Mon Oct 20 18:23:31 2008
From: r at aufbix.org (Robert Ludvik)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:23:31 +0200
Subject: [LUGOS] MiND 2008
Message-ID: <48FCB083.5040205@aufbix.org>

Na strani http://mind.mcp.si/index.php/MiND_2008 je posodobljen program
dogodka.
Vljudno vabljeni

From miha.tomsic at gmail.com  Mon Oct 20 21:42:41 2008
From: miha.tomsic at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Miha_Tom=B9i=E8?=)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:42:41 +0200
Subject: [LUGOS] yum localupdate firefox
In-Reply-To: <395706.72392.qm@web28614.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
References: <395706.72392.qm@web28614.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <d790bfa50810201242t59c20756m7758921bdeae21d9@mail.gmail.com>

Hojla!

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Matic Smerdu <jelen_v_senci at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Danes sem posku?al instalirati Firefox 3.0.3 rpm v Fedoro 7 z ukazom yum localupdate. Takole:
> yum localupdate /home/matic/temp/firefox-3.0.3-1.fc7.remi.i386.rpm

Ponavadi so glomazni paketi kot je recimo firefox odvisni ?e od enega
kup?ka drugih paketov, kar ti pi?e spodaj.

> Ni uspelo. Dobil sem takole sporo?ilo:
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Examining /home/matic/temp/firefox-3.0.3-1.fc7.remi.i386.rpm: firefox - 3.0.3-1.fc7.remi.i386
> Marking /home/matic/temp/firefox-3.0.3-1.fc7.remi.i386.rpm as an update to firefox - 2.0.0.14-1.fc7.i386
> Resolving Dependencies
> --> Running transaction check
> --> Processing Dependency: gecko-libs = 1.8.1.14 for package: gnome-python2-gtkmozembed
> ---> Package firefox.i386 0:3.0.3-1.fc7.remi set to be updated
> --> Processing Dependency: xulrunner = 1.9.0.3 for package: firefox
> --> Processing Dependency: libxul.so for package: firefox
> --> Finished Dependency Resolution
> Error: Missing Dependency: libxul.so is needed by package firefox
> Error: Missing Dependency: gecko-libs = 1.8.1.14 is needed by package gnome-python2-gtkmozembed
> Error: Missing Dependency: xulrunner = 1.9.0.3 is needed by package firefox
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

?e pogleda? na http://rpms.famillecollet.com/fc7.i386/repoview/ , bo?
ugotovil, da je vse kar potrebuje? ?e tam in ?aka, da pobere?, potem
pa vse te pakete na?teje? v yum localeupdate ...

Ampak to je valda ?e?ko in neprefinjeno. Lahko pa se naredi? Francoza
in prebere? tole stran: http://blog.famillecollet.com/pages/Config in
potem po?ene?:

 rpm -Uvh http://rpms.famillecollet.com/remi-release-7.rpm

zatem pa ?e:

yum --enablerepo=remi install firefox

Nisem preizkusil, ampak sem prepri?an, da deluje. Sicer pa yum
ponavadi pove, kje ga srbi in ?uli.

Sre?no, M.

From b at thz.net  Tue Oct 21 00:33:16 2008
From: b at thz.net (Blaz Podrzaj)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 00:33:16 +0200
Subject: [LUGOS] ssh hitrost kopiranja
In-Reply-To: <1222.193.2.237.16.1224504308.squirrel@webmail.ceterum.si>
References: <20081017100400.21482b36.pegasus@nerv.eu.org>
	<20081017211001.kpxxkh6rdwk8swgw@mail.psilon.org>
	<20081017211654.acec6b94.pegasus@nerv.eu.org> <48FC2D8E.90307@lugos.si>
	<20081020114803.6a5cc90f.pegasus@nerv.eu.org>
	<20081020115421.7b6311e1.pegasus@nerv.eu.org>
	<1222.193.2.237.16.1224504308.squirrel@webmail.ceterum.si>
Message-ID: <20081021003316.ch03uiyta848kwg4@mail.psilon.org>

To kar si napisal glede hitrosti ki jo Jure omenja je res... gre za hitrost
dd-ja.

Kar se tice /dev/zero tudi soglasam, ker ga lahko zlib "prevec" ter prehitro
(75MB/sec) stisne in rezultat ne bo realen.

Zgleda pa da bo Metodova, da je ozko grlo procesor, kar drzala. Sketal sem
kompleten /usr/bin (132MB) in ga zagzipal. Gzipal mi je s hitrostjo 9,4 MB/sec
kar je ZE pod nivojem mreze. Potem sem pa se za foro teh 132MB prescpjal kar
prek loopback-a najprej brez kompresije (66MB/sec) in se s kompresijo
(6,3MB/sec). Kompresija je pobrala najvec procesorja... po moje okrog 90%, 5%
pa je pobrala enkripcija. Dekripcija in dekompresija na strani sshd-ja pride v
preostalih 5% kar se obicajno itak dogaja na drugi strani.

Sel sem se dlje... ce sem nivo kompresije spustil na 4 sem ze presegel 
16MB/sec,
s tem da se je dejansko cez mrezo preneslo samo 1MB vec (s kompresijo 6 je bil
gzip velik 56MB, s kompresijo 4 pa 57MB), s kompresijo 2 pa sem prisel ze
skoraj na 20MB/sec, s tem da se je cez mrezo preneslo samo 4MB vec (60MB).

Rezultat je spet popolnoma drugacen ce kompresiras samo tekst... 108MB 
xml mi je
kompresiral 3 sekunde kar znese priblizno 35,4MB/sec, scp prek 
loopback-a pa je
sel s hitrostjo 21,4MB/sec.

Bottom Line:

OpenSSH podpira nastavljanje nivoja kompresije vendar samo za protokol 
1! Poleg
tega v man straneh lepo pise, da je zadeva sicer priporocljiva za pocasne
povezave (modem, pocasen DSL), na hitrejsih povezavah pa lahko kvecjemu
upocasni vse skupaj.


Quoting Darko Bulat <darko.bulat at ceterum.si>:

> OK, zdaj sem zadevo preveril ?e pri sebi.
>
> V primeru, ko uporabi? gzip se prenese cel 1 MB (to?no: 1042069 bytov).
>
> /dev/zero ni primeren vir podatkov za testiranje z uporabo kompresije.
>
> LP
>
> Darko
>
> --
>
> On Pon, Oktober 20, 2008 11:54, Jure Pe?ar wrote:
>> On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:48:03 +0200
>> Jure Pe?ar <pegasus at nerv.eu.org> wrote:
>>
>>> a me presene?a, da je ssh s kompresijo ?e toliko po?asnej?i.
>>
>> Konkretno, moti me to:
>>
>> root at backup1:~# dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M count=1024 | gzip | ssh root at backup2
>> "zcat > /dev/null"
>> 1024+0 records in
>> 1024+0 records out
>> 1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 18.4703 seconds, 58.1 MB/s
>>
>> root at backup1:~# dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M count=1024 | ssh -C root at backup2
>> "cat > /dev/null"
>> 1024+0 records in
>> 1024+0 records out
>> 1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 890.529 seconds, 1.2 MB/s
>>
>> S tem da je baje ssh -C uporablja isti zlib ...
>>
>> O?itno nekaj za na ustrezen openslowlaris bugtracker :)
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Jure Pe?ar
>> http://jure.pecar.org
>> _______________________________________________
>> lugos-list mailing list
>> lugos-list at lugos.si
>> http://liste2.lugos.si/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lugos-list
>
>
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>



From jelen_v_senci at yahoo.co.uk  Tue Oct 21 11:36:31 2008
From: jelen_v_senci at yahoo.co.uk (Matic Smerdu)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:36:31 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [LUGOS] yum localupdate firefox
In-Reply-To: <d790bfa50810201242t59c20756m7758921bdeae21d9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <466012.11073.qm@web28603.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>

Hvala Miha. Ravno to sem rabil.

Malce me skrbi samo tole. Na nekem forumu sem prebral, da bi lahko nastali problemi, ?e bi omogo?il repositorium remi. Ni mi ?isto jasno, kak?ne te?ave je mislil. Morda remi ni ?isto zdru?ljiv z uradno fedoro, ali kaj.

Ja, zdi se, da je uradna podpora za fedoro 7 ukinjena. Bom najbr? moral preiti na 9 ali pa 10 ko izide. Torej dovolj o tem. Samo ?e tole mimogrede. Ali je bilo kaj izjavljeno uradno, koliko ?asa naj bi navadno veljala podpora za vsako verzijo fedore?

?e enkrat hvala in

LP (ljubki pozdravi)


               Poni


--- On Mon, 20/10/08, Miha Tom?i? <miha.tomsic na gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Miha Tom?i? <miha.tomsic na gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [LUGOS] yum localupdate firefox
> To: "Glavni dopisni seznam LUGOSa" <lugos-list na lugos.si>
> Received: Monday, 20 October, 2008, 9:42 PM
> Hojla!
> 
> On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Matic Smerdu
> <jelen_v_senci na yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > Danes sem posku?al instalirati Firefox 3.0.3 rpm v
> Fedoro 7 z ukazom yum localupdate. Takole:
> > yum localupdate
> /home/matic/temp/firefox-3.0.3-1.fc7.remi.i386.rpm
> 
> Ponavadi so glomazni paketi kot je recimo firefox odvisni
> ?e od enega
> kup?ka drugih paketov, kar ti pi?e spodaj.
> 
> > Ni uspelo. Dobil sem takole sporo?ilo:
> >
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Examining
> /home/matic/temp/firefox-3.0.3-1.fc7.remi.i386.rpm: firefox
> - 3.0.3-1.fc7.remi.i386
> > Marking
> /home/matic/temp/firefox-3.0.3-1.fc7.remi.i386.rpm as an
> update to firefox - 2.0.0.14-1.fc7.i386
> > Resolving Dependencies
> > --> Running transaction check
> > --> Processing Dependency: gecko-libs = 1.8.1.14
> for package: gnome-python2-gtkmozembed
> > ---> Package firefox.i386 0:3.0.3-1.fc7.remi set to
> be updated
> > --> Processing Dependency: xulrunner = 1.9.0.3 for
> package: firefox
> > --> Processing Dependency: libxul.so for package:
> firefox
> > --> Finished Dependency Resolution
> > Error: Missing Dependency: libxul.so is needed by
> package firefox
> > Error: Missing Dependency: gecko-libs = 1.8.1.14 is
> needed by package gnome-python2-gtkmozembed
> > Error: Missing Dependency: xulrunner = 1.9.0.3 is
> needed by package firefox
> >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> ?e pogleda? na
> http://rpms.famillecollet.com/fc7.i386/repoview/ , bo?
> ugotovil, da je vse kar potrebuje? ?e tam in ?aka, da
> pobere?, potem
> pa vse te pakete na?teje? v yum localeupdate ...
> 
> Ampak to je valda ?e?ko in neprefinjeno. Lahko pa se
> naredi? Francoza
> in prebere? tole stran:
> http://blog.famillecollet.com/pages/Config in
> potem po?ene?:
> 
>  rpm -Uvh http://rpms.famillecollet.com/remi-release-7.rpm
> 
> zatem pa ?e:
> 
> yum --enablerepo=remi install firefox
> 
> Nisem preizkusil, ampak sem prepri?an, da deluje. Sicer pa
> yum
> ponavadi pove, kje ga srbi in ?uli.
> 
> Sre?no, M.
> _______________________________________________
> lugos-list mailing list
> lugos-list na lugos.si
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From jlp at holodeck1.com  Tue Oct 21 19:30:26 2008
From: jlp at holodeck1.com (Jure Repinc)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:30:26 +0200
Subject: [LUGOS] Peticija proti programskim patentom v Evropi
Message-ID: <1224610226.48fe11b2cc431@mail.zipp.nu>

Spet je &#269;as za malo akcije

Programski patenti &#353;e vedno grozijo Evropi, tako da so se nekateri spet
odlo&#269;ili opozoriti na to problematiko in za&#269;eli s peticijo:

?Our petition aims to unify the voices of concerned Europeans, associations and
companies, and calls on our politicians in Europe to stop patents on software
with legislative clarifications.

The patent system is misused to restrain competition for the economical benefit
of a few but fails to promote innovation. A software market environment is
better off with no patents on software at all. Healthy competition forces
market players to innovate.?

Ve&#269;: http://stopsoftwarepatents.eu/

Podpi&#353;ite peticijo in povejte naprej...

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From frikec at gmail.com  Sun Oct 26 22:35:20 2008
From: frikec at gmail.com (Tadej)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 22:35:20 +0100
Subject: [LUGOS] postfix + amavis + spamassassin problem
Message-ID: <8f4d2efd0810261435y56103070se42019a071fa03dc@mail.gmail.com>

Na strezniku uporabljam postfix + amavis + spamassassin in imam sledec
problem. V mail.log je vidno, da gre mail skozi spamassassin ( je
identicen logu na drugem serverju kjer vse dela BP), ampak ko mail
pride v mailbox, v headerju ni nobene "Spam" oznake, kot da bi mail
sel skozi spamassassin, a le ta nebi naredil nic.

Prilagam se mail.log in source od maila

-------------------------------------------------------------

Oct 26 17:15:31 kanja postfix/smtpd[14297]: connect from
qw-out-1920.google.com[74.125.92.144] Oct 26 17:15:33 kanja
postfix/smtpd[14297]: BFD064BC272:
client=qw-out-1920.google.com[74.125.92.144] Oct 26 17:15:34 kanja
postfix/cleanup[14277]: BFD064BC272:
message-id=<d40b65470810260932s13ba3c80gf36555cefa1004b6 at mail.gmail.com>
Oct 26 17:15:34 kanja postfix/qmgr[14272]: BFD064BC272:
from=<*****@gmail.com>, size=2042, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Oct 26
17:15:34 kanja spamd[14247]: spamd: connection from localhost
[127.0.0.1] at port 55524 Oct 26 17:15:34 kanja spamd[14247]: spamd:
processing message
<d40b65470810260932s13ba3c80gf36555cefa1004b6 at mail.gmail.com> for
spamfilter:104 Oct 26 17:15:34 kanja spamd[14247]: spamd: clean
message (0.6/5.0) for spamfilter:104 in 0.1 seconds, 2032 bytes. Oct
26 17:15:34 kanja spamd[14247]: spamd: result: . 0 -
HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_SHORT_LENGTH
scantime=0.1,size=2032,user=spamfilter,uid=104,required_score=5.0,rhost=localhost,raddr=127.0.0.1,rport=55524,mid=<d40b65470810260932s13ba3c80gf36555cefa1004b6 at mail.gmail.com>,autolearn=no
Oct 26 17:15:34 kanja spamd[14246]: prefork: child states: II Oct 26
17:15:34 kanja postfix/pickup[14271]: 3C0A84BC276: uid=1005
from=<*****@gmail.com> Oct 26 17:15:34 kanja postfix/cleanup[14277]:
3C0A84BC276: message-id=<d40b65470810260932s13ba3c80gf36555cefa1004b6 at mail.gmail.com>
Oct 26 17:15:34 kanja postfix/pipe[14278]: BFD064BC272:
to=<tadej@*****.si>, relay=spamfilter, delay=2.7, delays=2.6/0/0/0.14,
dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered via spamfilter service) Oct 26
17:15:34 kanja postfix/qmgr[14272]: BFD064BC272: removed Oct 26
17:15:34 kanja postfix/qmgr[14272]: 3C0A84BC276:
from=<*****@gmail.com>, size=2366, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Oct 26
17:15:34 kanja postfix/smtpd[14286]: connect from localhost[127.0.0.1]
Oct 26 17:15:34 kanja postfix/smtpd[14286]: 69ED74BC272:
client=localhost[127.0.0.1] Oct 26 17:15:34 kanja
postfix/cleanup[14277]: 69ED74BC272:
message-id=<d40b65470810260932s13ba3c80gf36555cefa1004b6 at mail.gmail.com>
Oct 26 17:15:34 kanja postfix/qmgr[14272]: 69ED74BC272:
from=<*****@gmail.com>, size=2591, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Oct 26
17:15:34 kanja postfix/smtpd[14286]: disconnect from
localhost[127.0.0.1] Oct 26 17:15:34 kanja amavis[14263]: (14263-02)
Passed CLEAN, [74.125.92.144] <*****@gmail.com> -> <tadej@*****.si>,
Message-ID: <d40b65470810260932s13ba3c80gf36555cefa1004b6 at mail.gmail.com>,
mail_id: b6UbakgxUctK, Hits: 0.63, queued_as: 69ED74BC272, 230 ms Oct
26 17:15:34 kanja postfix/smtp[14283]: 3C0A84BC276:
to=<tadej@*****.si>, relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:10024, delay=0.32,
delays=0.09/0/0/0.23, dsn=2.6.0, status=sent (250 2.6.0 Ok,
id=14263-02, from MTA([127.0.0.1]:10025): 250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as
69ED74BC272) Oct 26 17:15:34 kanja postfix/qmgr[14272]: 3C0A84BC276:
removed Oct 26 17:15:34 kanja postfix/local[14287]: 69ED74BC272:
to=<tadej@*****.si>, relay=local, delay=0.07, delays=0.05/0.02/0/0.01,
dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to mailbox) Oct 26 17:15:34 kanja
postfix/qmgr[14272]: 69ED74BC272: removed

-------------------------------------------------------------

Return-Path: <*****@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: tadej@*****.si
Delivered-To: tadej@*****.si
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
     by kanja.*****.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id C17754BC272
     for <tadej@*****.si>; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:02:03 +0100 (CET)
X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at kanja.*****.si
Received: from kanja.*****.si ([127.0.0.1])
     by localhost (kanja.*****.si [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
     with ESMTP id 2Gvm+4EYrCVf for <tadej@*****.si>;
     Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:02:03 +0100 (CET)
Received: by kanja.*****.si (Postfix, from userid 1005)
     id 887AB4BC276; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:02:03 +0100 (CET)
Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com (qw-out-1920.google.com [74.125.92.145])
     by kanja.*****.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107D34BC272
     for <tadej@*****.si>; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:02:02 +0100 (CET)
Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 9so651630qwj.52
     for <tadej@*****.si>; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 09:18:34 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
     d=gmail.com; s=gamma;
     h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to
     :subject:mime-version:content-type;
     bh=+XJpocKq2QthLsayK7NTGjHQj7Px6sI25NFZL9Yw/tM=;
     b=CaJ9jomffOFyrGaXRYOGMlV8r60KVOjx5LZQ4GsiW6utEBK49bk7fRU64VuigbpoOd
     YqvuBR1aPex7KbgM7eleqAk/1MmvCzjVxglKKnKkg8frS1hDm7NTJx1fQHkMiTTMQ0E3
     ioL1JZdhvTr5V7+hc4TDb3OeBuo0a41ICXgwk=
DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws;
     d=gmail.com; s=gamma;
     h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type;
     b=OFEbOcwmIOeUst+PHXtkH46pgwnweKVsFezftn5AUTAoTQvdhlXeZYFErJHtfmWeZA
     nS/3yrTbF8JC5avnmbzVLJY1E8sGnS9txq1UKnmeC1KAPWJ/thpN2mqiMtiJm4dMOQzd
     V5z5NoTtcx2Hd7SnzCGPWu2mRvA8kwYy6bCwg=
Received: by 10.214.215.5 with SMTP id n5mr1588579qag.172.1225037914793;
     Sun, 26 Oct 2008 09:18:34 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by 10.214.242.7 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 09:18:34 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <d40b65470810260918i5d367b8fs41b7ef4d9aa91f3e at mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:18:34 +0100
From: "=?WINDOWS-1252?Q?*****?=" <*****@gmail.com>
To: tadej@*****.si
Subject: test8
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
     boundary="----=_Part_79980_25313381.1225037914772"

-------------------------------------------------------------

Hvala za pomoc.

--
Lep pozdrav
Tadej

From joze.klepec at siol.net  Thu Oct 30 00:20:19 2008
From: joze.klepec at siol.net (=?windows-1252?Q?=22Jo=9Ee_Klepec=22?=)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 00:20:19 +0100
Subject: [LUGOS] postfix + amavis + spamassassin problem
In-Reply-To: <8f4d2efd0810261435y56103070se42019a071fa03dc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8f4d2efd0810261435y56103070se42019a071fa03dc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4908EFB3.4020409@siol.net>

> http://www.debianadmin.com/how-to-filter-spam-with-spamassassin-and-postfix-in-debian.html
> http://www.xnote.com/howto/postfix-spamassassin.html
> ttp://www.akadia.com/services/postfix_spamassassin.html
> http://www.akadia.com/services/postfix_amavisd.html

To bo verjetno. Pa ata Google drugic(.

lp, Jo?e


Tadej pravi:
> Na strezniku uporabljam postfix + amavis + spamassassin in imam sledec
> problem. V mail.log je vidno, da gre mail skozi spamassassin ( je
> identicen logu na drugem serverju kjer vse dela BP), ampak ko mail
> pride v mailbox, v headerju ni nobene "Spam" oznake, kot da bi mail
> sel skozi spamassassin, a le ta nebi naredil nic.
>
> Prilagam se mail.log in source od maila
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Oct 26 17:15:31 kanja postfix/smtpd[14297]: connect from
> qw-out-1920.google.com[74.125.92.144] Oct 26 17:15:33 kanja
> postfix/smtpd[14297]: BFD064BC272:
> client=qw-out-1920.google.com[74.125.92.144] Oct 26 17:15:34 kanja
> postfix/cleanup[14277]: BFD064BC272:
> message-id=<d40b65470810260932s13ba3c80gf36555cefa1004b6 at mail.gmail.com>
> Oct 26 17:15:34 kanja postfix/qmgr[14272]: BFD064BC272:
> from=<*****@gmail.com>, size=2042, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Oct 26
> 17:15:34 kanja spamd[14247]: spamd: connection from localhost
> [127.0.0.1] at port 55524 Oct 26 17:15:34 kanja spamd[14247]: spamd:
> processing message
> <d40b65470810260932s13ba3c80gf36555cefa1004b6 at mail.gmail.com> for
> spamfilter:104 Oct 26 17:15:34 kanja spamd[14247]: spamd: clean
> message (0.6/5.0) for spamfilter:104 in 0.1 seconds, 2032 bytes. Oct
> 26 17:15:34 kanja spamd[14247]: spamd: result: . 0 -
> HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_SHORT_LENGTH
> scantime=0.1,size=2032,user=spamfilter,uid=104,required_score=5.0,rhost=localhost,raddr=127.0.0.1,rport=55524,mid=<d40b65470810260932s13ba3c80gf36555cefa1004b6 at mail.gmail.com>,autolearn=no
> Oct 26 17:15:34 kanja spamd[14246]: prefork: child states: II Oct 26
> 17:15:34 kanja postfix/pickup[14271]: 3C0A84BC276: uid=1005
> from=<*****@gmail.com> Oct 26 17:15:34 kanja postfix/cleanup[14277]:
> 3C0A84BC276: message-id=<d40b65470810260932s13ba3c80gf36555cefa1004b6 at mail.gmail.com>
> Oct 26 17:15:34 kanja postfix/pipe[14278]: BFD064BC272:
> to=<tadej@*****.si>, relay=spamfilter, delay=2.7, delays=2.6/0/0/0.14,
> dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered via spamfilter service) Oct 26
> 17:15:34 kanja postfix/qmgr[14272]: BFD064BC272: removed Oct 26
> 17:15:34 kanja postfix/qmgr[14272]: 3C0A84BC276:
> from=<*****@gmail.com>, size=2366, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Oct 26
> 17:15:34 kanja postfix/smtpd[14286]: connect from localhost[127.0.0.1]
> Oct 26 17:15:34 kanja postfix/smtpd[14286]: 69ED74BC272:
> client=localhost[127.0.0.1] Oct 26 17:15:34 kanja
> postfix/cleanup[14277]: 69ED74BC272:
> message-id=<d40b65470810260932s13ba3c80gf36555cefa1004b6 at mail.gmail.com>
> Oct 26 17:15:34 kanja postfix/qmgr[14272]: 69ED74BC272:
> from=<*****@gmail.com>, size=2591, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Oct 26
> 17:15:34 kanja postfix/smtpd[14286]: disconnect from
> localhost[127.0.0.1] Oct 26 17:15:34 kanja amavis[14263]: (14263-02)
> Passed CLEAN, [74.125.92.144] <*****@gmail.com> -> <tadej@*****.si>,
> Message-ID: <d40b65470810260932s13ba3c80gf36555cefa1004b6 at mail.gmail.com>,
> mail_id: b6UbakgxUctK, Hits: 0.63, queued_as: 69ED74BC272, 230 ms Oct
> 26 17:15:34 kanja postfix/smtp[14283]: 3C0A84BC276:
> to=<tadej@*****.si>, relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:10024, delay=0.32,
> delays=0.09/0/0/0.23, dsn=2.6.0, status=sent (250 2.6.0 Ok,
> id=14263-02, from MTA([127.0.0.1]:10025): 250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as
> 69ED74BC272) Oct 26 17:15:34 kanja postfix/qmgr[14272]: 3C0A84BC276:
> removed Oct 26 17:15:34 kanja postfix/local[14287]: 69ED74BC272:
> to=<tadej@*****.si>, relay=local, delay=0.07, delays=0.05/0.02/0/0.01,
> dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to mailbox) Oct 26 17:15:34 kanja
> postfix/qmgr[14272]: 69ED74BC272: removed
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Return-Path: <*****@gmail.com>
> X-Original-To: tadej@*****.si
> Delivered-To: tadej@*****.si
> Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
>      by kanja.*****.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id C17754BC272
>      for <tadej@*****.si>; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:02:03 +0100 (CET)
> X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at kanja.*****.si
> Received: from kanja.*****.si ([127.0.0.1])
>      by localhost (kanja.*****.si [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
>      with ESMTP id 2Gvm+4EYrCVf for <tadej@*****.si>;
>      Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:02:03 +0100 (CET)
> Received: by kanja.*****.si (Postfix, from userid 1005)
>      id 887AB4BC276; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:02:03 +0100 (CET)
> Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com (qw-out-1920.google.com [74.125.92.145])
>      by kanja.*****.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107D34BC272
>      for <tadej@*****.si>; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:02:02 +0100 (CET)
> Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 9so651630qwj.52
>      for <tadej@*****.si>; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 09:18:34 -0700 (PDT)
> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
>      d=gmail.com; s=gamma;
>      h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to
>      :subject:mime-version:content-type;
>      bh=+XJpocKq2QthLsayK7NTGjHQj7Px6sI25NFZL9Yw/tM=;
>      b=CaJ9jomffOFyrGaXRYOGMlV8r60KVOjx5LZQ4GsiW6utEBK49bk7fRU64VuigbpoOd
>      YqvuBR1aPex7KbgM7eleqAk/1MmvCzjVxglKKnKkg8frS1hDm7NTJx1fQHkMiTTMQ0E3
>      ioL1JZdhvTr5V7+hc4TDb3OeBuo0a41ICXgwk=
> DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws;
>      d=gmail.com; s=gamma;
>      h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type;
>      b=OFEbOcwmIOeUst+PHXtkH46pgwnweKVsFezftn5AUTAoTQvdhlXeZYFErJHtfmWeZA
>      nS/3yrTbF8JC5avnmbzVLJY1E8sGnS9txq1UKnmeC1KAPWJ/thpN2mqiMtiJm4dMOQzd
>      V5z5NoTtcx2Hd7SnzCGPWu2mRvA8kwYy6bCwg=
> Received: by 10.214.215.5 with SMTP id n5mr1588579qag.172.1225037914793;
>      Sun, 26 Oct 2008 09:18:34 -0700 (PDT)
> Received: by 10.214.242.7 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 09:18:34 -0700 (PDT)
> Message-ID: <d40b65470810260918i5d367b8fs41b7ef4d9aa91f3e at mail.gmail.com>
> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:18:34 +0100
> From: "=?WINDOWS-1252?Q?*****?=" <*****@gmail.com>
> To: tadej@*****.si
> Subject: test8
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
>      boundary="----=_Part_79980_25313381.1225037914772"
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Hvala za pomoc.
>
> --
> Lep pozdrav
> Tadej
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From klemen at humerca.com  Thu Oct 30 17:42:58 2008
From: klemen at humerca.com (Klemen Humerca)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:42:58 +0100
Subject: [LUGOS] grubby fatal error: unable to find a suitable template
Message-ID: <4909E412.5040109@humerca.com>

Na Fedora Core 9 sem zasledil slede?i error:

grubby fatal error: unable to find a suitable template

Napaka se pojavi pri namestitvi (ali update) kernela. Zasledil sem jo 
pri avtomati?nem updatu z ukazom yum -y upgrade. Enako se zgodi tudi, ?e 
kernel namestim z rpm ukazom. V grub.conf kernel ne vpi?e novih vrstic 
za zagon. ?e to storim ro?no se sistem ne nalo?i in se ustavi pri 
inicializaciji gonilnikov, ker ne najde root-a. Spodaj je del verbose 
in?talacije z rpm-ja:

    D: adding 1 entries to Installtid index.
    D: opening db index /var/lib/rpm/Sigmd5 create mode=0x42
    D: adding 1 entries to Sigmd5 index.
    D: opening db index /var/lib/rpm/Sha1header create mode=0x42
    D: adding "4bd647eca284f320c65982b6662e59a87ba6a3a5" to Sha1header
    index.
    D: opening db index /var/lib/rpm/Filemd5s create mode=0x42
    D: adding 2157 entries to Filemd5s index.
    D: install: %post(kernel-2.6.26.6-79.fc9.i586) asynchronous
    scriptlet start
    D: install: %post(kernel-2.6.26.6-79.fc9.i586) execv(/bin/sh) pid 9671
    ++ uname -i
    ++ uname -i
    + '[' i386 == x86_64 -o i386 == i386 ']'
    + '[' -f /etc/sysconfig/kernel ']'
    + /bin/sed -i -e
    's/^DEFAULTKERNEL=kernel-smp$/DEFAULTKERNEL=kernel/'
    /etc/sysconfig/kernel
    + /sbin/new-kernel-pkg --package kernel --mkinitrd --depmod
    --install 2.6.26.6-79.fc9.i586
    grubby fatal error: unable to find a suitable template
    D: install: waitpid(9671) rc 9671 status 0 secs 61.688
    D: running post-transaction scripts
    D: Expected size: 18876201 = lead(96)+sigs(344)+pad(0)+data(18875761)
    D: Actual size: 18876201
    D: kernel-2.6.26.6-79.fc9: Header V3 DSA signature: OK, key ID 6df2196f
    D: (null): %posttrans(kernel-2.6.26.6-79.fc9.i586) synchronous
    scriptlet start
    D: (null): %posttrans(kernel-2.6.26.6-79.fc9.i586) execv(/bin/sh)
    pid 13149
    + /sbin/new-kernel-pkg --package kernel --rpmposttrans
    2.6.26.6-79.fc9.i586
    D: (null): waitpid(13149) rc 13149 status 0 secs 0.206
    D: closed db index /var/lib/rpm/Pubkeys
    D: closed db index /var/lib/rpm/Filemd5s
    D: closed db index /var/lib/rpm/Sha1header
    D: closed db index /var/lib/rpm/Sigmd5
    D: closed db index /var/lib/rpm/Installtid
    D: closed db index /var/lib/rpm/Provideversion
    D: closed db index /var/lib/rpm/Requireversion
    D: closed db index /var/lib/rpm/Dirnames
    D: closed db index /var/lib/rpm/Triggername
    D: closed db index /var/lib/rpm/Conflictname
    D: closed db index /var/lib/rpm/Providename
    D: closed db index /var/lib/rpm/Requirename
    D: closed db index /var/lib/rpm/Group
    D: closed db index /var/lib/rpm/Basenames
    D: closed db index /var/lib/rpm/Name
    D: closed db index /var/lib/rpm/Packages
    D: closed db environment /var/lib/rpm/Packages
    D: May free Score board((nil))



Obstoje?i kernel se normalno za?ene. Je mo?no, da je do kak?ne napake 
pri?lo pri nadgradnji iz fc8 na fc9? Obstoje?i kernel je ostal od fc8 
(2.6.24.4-64.fc8).

Hvala.

-- 
Klemen Humerca

( klemen at humerca.com | blog.humerca.com)


From marko at jerak.si  Fri Oct 31 09:21:43 2008
From: marko at jerak.si (Marko Jerak)
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 09:21:43 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [LUGOS] postfix + amavis + spamassassin problem
In-Reply-To: <4908EFB3.4020409@siol.net>
References: <8f4d2efd0810261435y56103070se42019a071fa03dc@mail.gmail.com>
	<4908EFB3.4020409@siol.net>
Message-ID: <45072.193.77.166.179.1225441303.squirrel@www.jerak.si>

Imel sem podoben problem. Problem je bil v amavisd.conf saj je manjkala
ena vrstica:

$sa_spam_subject_tag = '**SPAM**';

?e je vse ostalo OK bi moralo delovati.

lp
m


>> http://www.debianadmin.com/how-to-filter-spam-with-spamassassin-and-postfix-in-debian.html
>> http://www.xnote.com/howto/postfix-spamassassin.html
>> ttp://www.akadia.com/services/postfix_spamassassin.html
>> http://www.akadia.com/services/postfix_amavisd.html
>
> To bo verjetno. Pa ata Google drugic(.
>
> lp, Jo?e
>
>
> Tadej pravi:
>> Na strezniku uporabljam postfix + amavis + spamassassin in imam sledec
>> problem. V mail.log je vidno, da gre mail skozi spamassassin ( je
>> identicen logu na drugem serverju kjer vse dela BP), ampak ko mail
>> pride v mailbox, v headerju ni nobene "Spam" oznake, kot da bi mail
>> sel skozi spamassassin, a le ta nebi naredil nic.
>>
>> Prilagam se mail.log in source od maila
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Oct 26 17:15:31 kanja postfix/smtpd[14297]: connect from
>> qw-out-1920.google.com[74.125.92.144] Oct 26 17:15:33 kanja
>> postfix/smtpd[14297]: BFD064BC272:
>> client=qw-out-1920.google.com[74.125.92.144] Oct 26 17:15:34 kanja
>> postfix/cleanup[14277]: BFD064BC272:
>> message-id=<d40b65470810260932s13ba3c80gf36555cefa1004b6 na mail.gmail.com>
>> Oct 26 17:15:34 kanja postfix/qmgr[14272]: BFD064BC272:
>> from=<*****@gmail.com>, size=2042, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Oct 26
>> 17:15:34 kanja spamd[14247]: spamd: connection from localhost
>> [127.0.0.1] at port 55524 Oct 26 17:15:34 kanja spamd[14247]: spamd:
>> processing message
>> <d40b65470810260932s13ba3c80gf36555cefa1004b6 na mail.gmail.com> for
>> spamfilter:104 Oct 26 17:15:34 kanja spamd[14247]: spamd: clean
>> message (0.6/5.0) for spamfilter:104 in 0.1 seconds, 2032 bytes. Oct
>> 26 17:15:34 kanja spamd[14247]: spamd: result: . 0 -
>> HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_SHORT_LENGTH
>> scantime=0.1,size=2032,user=spamfilter,uid=104,required_score=5.0,rhost=localhost,raddr=127.0.0.1,rport=55524,mid=<d40b65470810260932s13ba3c80gf36555cefa1004b6 na mail.gmail.com>,autolearn=no
>> Oct 26 17:15:34 kanja spamd[14246]: prefork: child states: II Oct 26
>> 17:15:34 kanja postfix/pickup[14271]: 3C0A84BC276: uid=1005
>> from=<*****@gmail.com> Oct 26 17:15:34 kanja postfix/cleanup[14277]:
>> 3C0A84BC276:
>> message-id=<d40b65470810260932s13ba3c80gf36555cefa1004b6 na mail.gmail.com>
>> Oct 26 17:15:34 kanja postfix/pipe[14278]: BFD064BC272:
>> to=<tadej@*****.si>, relay=spamfilter, delay=2.7, delays=2.6/0/0/0.14,
>> dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered via spamfilter service) Oct 26
>> 17:15:34 kanja postfix/qmgr[14272]: BFD064BC272: removed Oct 26
>> 17:15:34 kanja postfix/qmgr[14272]: 3C0A84BC276:
>> from=<*****@gmail.com>, size=2366, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Oct 26
>> 17:15:34 kanja postfix/smtpd[14286]: connect from localhost[127.0.0.1]
>> Oct 26 17:15:34 kanja postfix/smtpd[14286]: 69ED74BC272:
>> client=localhost[127.0.0.1] Oct 26 17:15:34 kanja
>> postfix/cleanup[14277]: 69ED74BC272:
>> message-id=<d40b65470810260932s13ba3c80gf36555cefa1004b6 na mail.gmail.com>
>> Oct 26 17:15:34 kanja postfix/qmgr[14272]: 69ED74BC272:
>> from=<*****@gmail.com>, size=2591, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Oct 26
>> 17:15:34 kanja postfix/smtpd[14286]: disconnect from
>> localhost[127.0.0.1] Oct 26 17:15:34 kanja amavis[14263]: (14263-02)
>> Passed CLEAN, [74.125.92.144] <*****@gmail.com> -> <tadej@*****.si>,
>> Message-ID:
>> <d40b65470810260932s13ba3c80gf36555cefa1004b6 na mail.gmail.com>,
>> mail_id: b6UbakgxUctK, Hits: 0.63, queued_as: 69ED74BC272, 230 ms Oct
>> 26 17:15:34 kanja postfix/smtp[14283]: 3C0A84BC276:
>> to=<tadej@*****.si>, relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:10024, delay=0.32,
>> delays=0.09/0/0/0.23, dsn=2.6.0, status=sent (250 2.6.0 Ok,
>> id=14263-02, from MTA([127.0.0.1]:10025): 250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as
>> 69ED74BC272) Oct 26 17:15:34 kanja postfix/qmgr[14272]: 3C0A84BC276:
>> removed Oct 26 17:15:34 kanja postfix/local[14287]: 69ED74BC272:
>> to=<tadej@*****.si>, relay=local, delay=0.07, delays=0.05/0.02/0/0.01,
>> dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to mailbox) Oct 26 17:15:34 kanja
>> postfix/qmgr[14272]: 69ED74BC272: removed
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Return-Path: <*****@gmail.com>
>> X-Original-To: tadej@*****.si
>> Delivered-To: tadej@*****.si
>> Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
>>      by kanja.*****.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id C17754BC272
>>      for <tadej@*****.si>; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:02:03 +0100 (CET)
>> X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at kanja.*****.si
>> Received: from kanja.*****.si ([127.0.0.1])
>>      by localhost (kanja.*****.si [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
>>      with ESMTP id 2Gvm+4EYrCVf for <tadej@*****.si>;
>>      Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:02:03 +0100 (CET)
>> Received: by kanja.*****.si (Postfix, from userid 1005)
>>      id 887AB4BC276; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:02:03 +0100 (CET)
>> Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com (qw-out-1920.google.com
>> [74.125.92.145])
>>      by kanja.*****.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107D34BC272
>>      for <tadej@*****.si>; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:02:02 +0100 (CET)
>> Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 9so651630qwj.52
>>      for <tadej@*****.si>; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 09:18:34 -0700 (PDT)
>> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
>>      d=gmail.com; s=gamma;
>>      h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to
>>      :subject:mime-version:content-type;
>>      bh=+XJpocKq2QthLsayK7NTGjHQj7Px6sI25NFZL9Yw/tM=;
>>      b=CaJ9jomffOFyrGaXRYOGMlV8r60KVOjx5LZQ4GsiW6utEBK49bk7fRU64VuigbpoOd
>>      YqvuBR1aPex7KbgM7eleqAk/1MmvCzjVxglKKnKkg8frS1hDm7NTJx1fQHkMiTTMQ0E3
>>      ioL1JZdhvTr5V7+hc4TDb3OeBuo0a41ICXgwk=
>> DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws;
>>      d=gmail.com; s=gamma;
>>      h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type;
>>      b=OFEbOcwmIOeUst+PHXtkH46pgwnweKVsFezftn5AUTAoTQvdhlXeZYFErJHtfmWeZA
>>      nS/3yrTbF8JC5avnmbzVLJY1E8sGnS9txq1UKnmeC1KAPWJ/thpN2mqiMtiJm4dMOQzd
>>      V5z5NoTtcx2Hd7SnzCGPWu2mRvA8kwYy6bCwg=
>> Received: by 10.214.215.5 with SMTP id n5mr1588579qag.172.1225037914793;
>>      Sun, 26 Oct 2008 09:18:34 -0700 (PDT)
>> Received: by 10.214.242.7 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 09:18:34 -0700
>> (PDT)
>> Message-ID:
>> <d40b65470810260918i5d367b8fs41b7ef4d9aa91f3e na mail.gmail.com>
>> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:18:34 +0100
>> From: "*****" <*****@gmail.com>
>> To: tadej@*****.si
>> Subject: test8
>> MIME-Version: 1.0
>> Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
>>      boundary="----=_Part_79980_25313381.1225037914772"
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>>
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>>
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